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A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:49 am

fill in an airport that this statement applies to. Let's define long as 7000 ft. or longer. I'll start with JST Johnstown Pa. 7000 ft main runway and nothing bigger than an occasional Falcons and Gulfstreams.
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:57 am

Are you talking about airports with commercial service or just airports with private service? There are some ex SAC bases out there with 10,000ft+ runways without any significant service.
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:06 am

The Monroe-Collier airport in the Everglades west of MIA has a single runway in excess of 10,000'. I was supposed to be the replacement for MIA, but environmental issues pretty much left it as a runway taxiway and a control tower tat was open one shift a day.
I don't know if the tower is open at all anymore, but I flew on several trainers and test hops there in the '70's.
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:16 am

I'm talking any airport with a long runway were that length is very seldom needed.
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:24 am

FWA has a 12,000 foot runway (runway 5-23), but I have never seen anything larger than a cargo DC-8 there in all the years I have visited and used the airport (my home airport).

Does anyone else here know if any larger aircraft have used FWA?

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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:42 am

SmithAir747,

There are some (currently 7) photos of A300s in the database.

BSL, at 12795 feet might get an honourable mention for scheduled passenger services, with nothing larger than a 737 or A321. However, it does see quite a few cargo 747s.

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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:13 am

UTN/FAUT - Upington, South Africa. Runway is 4900 metres long = about 15000 feet. The airport gets 2 daily J41's from CPT and JNB - that's it !
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:11 pm


RE:JGPH1A......post # 6 above....isn't that an alternate for the Space Shuttle??? I believe so.
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:24 pm

FWA has a 12,000 foot runway (runway 5-23), but I have never seen anything larger than a cargo DC-8 there in all the years I have visited and used the airport (my home airport).

When fully loaded, BAX's/ATI's DC-8s use almost all of the 10,600 foot runway here in TOL. I think the original post wanted to know what long runways are never used over half the length.

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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:16 pm

QRO (Queretaro, Mexico) has the longest and most modern runway in Mexico, but the only service is VW ATR-42s and soon CO EMB145s.

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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:51 pm

Chennault (KCWF) in Lake Charles, LA has a 10,701' long runway with no schedualed commercial service. It has a large contingent of A300s being modified or scrapped and the occasional T38 passes through, but thats about it.
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:14 am

My hometown Mansfield, Ohio Lahm Airport (MFD) has a 9000 foot runway, plus overruns. There's a National Guard unit that flies C-130's, and they get Air Force One on occassion.

http://www.ci.mansfield.oh.us/airports.htm

There hasn't been commuter service since the 1980's, as Interstate 71 is tough competition, just an hour from either CLE or CMH. The brief commuter service operated by Fischer Bros. Aviation, a local company did business as Northwest Airlink. On March 4, 1987, flight 2268, a CASA C-212, originated at MFD, made a stop in CLE, before heading to DTW. It crashed on landing at DTW, killing 9 of 22 aboard. Soon after, the commuter service went out of business and Mansfielders were back to using I-71.

Crash report here:
http://www.avsaf.org/reports/US_reports/1980/1987.03.04_NorthwestAirlink_2268.pdf


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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:51 am

I dunno if SAN qualifies, but it has a 9,400' runway, hasn't seen a 747 in years, and the daily BA 777 was discontinued about a year and a half ago... Although right now a World MD-11 is coming in almost daily. But 95% or so of the pax services are on narrowbodied aircraft...
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:27 pm

9000ft+ Manston, Kent, UK
10500ft + Boscombe Down, Wilts, UK and a heap of other military places
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:57 pm

I would say SWF but they get the C-5s all the time and AN-124s.


But we do not recive big commercial aircraft. The biggest was a 757 from AA and than down to a 727 from Transmeridian.

So, now all we get is CRJ-200 ERJ-145 and DSH-8.

And we get UPS 757s and Atlas Air 747s, and cargo DC-8s but those dont come in so often.
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:01 am

2950m runway at Pula, Croatia - PUY


Scheduled flights are Croatian Airlines, though they do receive charters during the summer, occasionaly as large as IL86 / 767 though this is quite rare AFAIK.


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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:24 am

It is almost like Vandenberg Air Force Base. One of the longest runways in the world but no planes.....theres the government for ya
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:51 am

Giebelstadt Army Airfield in Bavaria Germany only gets Chopper traffic for the most part with an occasional jet. The runway however I dont have an exact length on it but it is over 10000.
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:27 pm

Pueblo Colorado KPUB
10,400 feet for a handful of commuter type aircraft.

Interestingly, the longest runway in Colorado isn't in Denver, but rather at KCOS Colorado Springs......13,500 versus 12,000. (in all fairness, COS shares the runway with Petersen AFB.)
Maybe for simplicity, we should restrict this topic to commercial airports.
The US is full of airports that were once active military bases...Castle AFB in Atwater, California is an example....KMER 11,800, an old SAC base for B-52s and KC-135s.
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:09 pm

Stirling,

"Interestingly, the longest runway in Colorado isn't in Denver, but rather at KCOS Colorado Springs......13,500 versus 12,000."

Denver now has a 16,000 foot runway that opened within the last year or two. I believe it's the longest paved runway in the US.

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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:37 pm

9006' at my home of MSN... The biggest scheduled service is A320's and DC9's from NW. They have a F-16 fighter unit based here too. Other than that, mostly CRJ's, ERJ's, BAe146's...
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:05 pm

ISP- 7002 ft...only WN 737's
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:18 pm

Don't forget about Bakersfield (BFL) - The runway lengthened to over two miles long (11,000 ft+) as an alternate space shuttle landing site (very close to Edwards Air Force Base as the crow flies), but at one point in the late 1990's, service was limited to two EM2 flights to SFO and four to LAX.

Thankfully, with the building of the new terminal, other airlines might be likely to start flying in - America West just recently announced the return of one daily flight to LAS to correspond with their night departures/arrivals (in addition to four RJ flights daily to PHX), and COExpress is having great success with their BFL-IAH runs on EMB145's.

And in answer to a useless trivia question, Bakersfield is the largest city west of the Mississippi without a flight to Denver. C'est la vie...
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:52 pm

A little off-topc but main airports in high elevation,COS and DEN, usually have a more runway length than needed because of AC performance.

If its hot and air density is low the AC is gona need a lot of runway. I was surprised at how long it took the 737 to be airborne at denver imagine the 777.
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sat Jan 29, 2005 3:42 pm

Gabreski Airport (FOK) in Westhampton Beach, NY has something like the second or third largest runway in North America, and it's an alternate landing site for the Space Shuttle. I think it's 11 or 12,000, but don't quote me, I don't know for sure.

But there's nothing there other than an Air National Guard unit and a lot of corporate jets of the rich people who go to the Hamptons.
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:42 am

Cold Bay, AK (CDB), has a runway in excess of 10,000 feet and usually only sees a PenAir Saab or Metroliner from Anchorage once a day, if that. However, I believe it is an alternate landing site for the space shuttle, as well as a big diversion airport for planes flying the northern pacific route. I believe CO had a 777 divert there not too long ago, and I know DL has diverted there in the past too.
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:16 am

Another runway over 10,000 feet is Moses Lake, WA. I believe the only scheduled service there is Big Sky metroliners.
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:37 am

HOI (Hao Island, in french Polynesia) 11089 ft, served by ATRs from Air Tahiti.
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IPC (Easter Island or Rapa Nui) 9524 ft

If I remember correctly, both can be used as diversion for the space shuttle
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:37 am

Battle Creek, MI (BTL), has a 10,003 ft runway. The biggest things that use it are the Air National Guard A-10s and a bunch of biz jets.

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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:41 am

Salina, KS has a 12,000 ft runway. The largest scheduled service is with a turboprop commuter.
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:50 am

Battle Creek, MI (BTL), has a 10,003 ft runway. The biggest things that use it are the Air National Guard A-10s and a bunch of biz jets.

A NW 747 landed on that runway, as does Air Force 1 and press planes that arrive with it, such as 757's and C-17 Globemasters.
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:33 pm

Easter island, runaway was built for the landing of a space shuttle
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:35 pm

When did the space shuttle land there? Would you know why ?
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:34 am

Gabreski Airport (FOK) in Westhampton Beach, NY has something like the second or third largest runway in North America, and it's an alternate landing site for the Space Shuttle. I think it's 11 or 12,000, but don't quote me, I don't know for sure.

But there's nothing there other than an Air National Guard unit and a lot of corporate jets of the rich people who go to the Hamptons.


correction, Gabreski is a mere 9,000 feet, the second largest in New York State after JFK. Good airport, though.

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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:49 am

 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:05 am

Gabreski is a mere 9,000 feet, the second largest in New York State after JFK. Good airport, though.

Hate to nitpick here but i will  Smile

Last I checked, Niagara Falls Int'l (IAG) is in NY State and has a 9,825' runway. They bill themselves as the 3rd longest runway in NYS....so I don't know who is second? (and it's not FOK).
 
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RE: A Long Runway But No Big Planes....

Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:08 am

Calverton Executive Airpark here on Long Island (CTO/KCTO) has a runway of 10,001ft. Nothing bigger than private general aviation planes go there.

(Calverton at one time was the assembly plant and test site for the Navy F-14 fighter jet)

http://www.calvertonairpark.com/pages/1/index.htm
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