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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:22 pm

One of the most avoidable, in my opinion, was Swissair on the East Coast of the U.S.

Really made me wonder if the same thing could happen to me.

Completely avoidable. Total waste of life.
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:39 pm

Quoting EI747SYDNEY (Reply 3):
United and American. Lost in the terrorist attacks on the US 9/11/2001 in New York, Washington DC and Shanksville. PA

I don't consider 9/11 to be a plane crash. It was terrorism.

I would have to say KLM-Pan Am crash at Tenerife.
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:51 pm

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 93):
I seem to recall a crash that happened at LAX where at 767 (I think thatwas the type of plane) landed on top of a commuter plane. Does anyone else remember this one?

I found it. It was USair flight 1493 (a 737-300) that collided with a Skywest Metro II on landing (main gear touched down then the nose gear landed on top of the commuter plane). It happened on February 1, 1991

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19910201-0
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:17 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 101):
I don't consider 9/11 to be a plane crash. It was terrorism

Em Planes- Yes
Crash- Yes

Answer yes it was a terrorist incident. But it WAS a plane crash.

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:09 pm

My AIM s/n is American 191.

'nuff said.
 
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:13 pm

Another thing... 9/11 was not a plane crash.
 
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:53 pm

Quoting WA727 (Reply 58):
The PHX bound NW #255 MD80 in DTW in 1988. Miraculously, there was one little girl who survived.

A fully loaded MD-80 bound for PHX - there was only one survivor. Most people had never really paid attention to the flaps/slat settings on takeoff until this crash.
 
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:05 pm

Quoting Jumpseatflyer (Reply 105):
Another thing... 9/11 was not a plane crash.

Am I losing my mind here or what. It WAS a plane crash. It was a crash caused by terrorists but still a plane crash all the same.

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:08 am

Coming from Stockport one which is poignant for me is the British Midland Canadair Argonaut which crashed in the town centre in June 1967. The aircraft was aquired from BOAC who apparently knew about the fuel transfer valves opening when apparently closed, but failed to tell BM. This is what occurred on G-ALHG on that Sunday morning as the flight neared its destination from Palma de Mallorca, one of the port engines cut out, but the captain mistook it for a fault with the other port engine, and shut that one down also. The aircraft operating on only 2 engines inevitably lost altitude and fell into Hopes Carr, Stockport about 5 miles short of Runway 24 at Manchester airport. Many of the passengers were burned alive, trapped in the mangled wreckage when the plane exploded, others were lucky, literally being thrown out of a gaping hole which appeared on impact. The captain (who survived) was credited with getting the plane down in a relatively open area in the town, nobody died on the ground. I regularly drive past the site which is marked by a monument.
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:44 am

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Andes/9522/

From an Irish aviation perspective. This one comes to mind.

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:15 am

1) 9/11
2) AF at YYZ
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:28 am

Clipper "Maid of the Seas", PA 103 crashing onto the town of Lockerbie stands out for me.

I was 10 years old when it happened and this desaster is the first one that I was really understanding fully with my interest in aviation growing.
While all the others mentioned here truly are the same horrific category, PA 103 for me stands out and I will never forget the picture of the cockpit section on the ground after the explosion and impact.

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:04 pm

To me one of the most notable incidents was an "almost" crash - the 737 in Hawaii that lost major parts of the roof, and still managed to land safely. "Only" a couple of people who weren't buckled up were sucked out of the plane.

The most notable "real" crash in my memory was a commuter between Italy and Germany that went down somewhere in the Alps in bad weather. I was working as a travel agent in the biz department, and we had a few customers on that flight. Dealing with the (understandbly) hysteric secretaries wasn't easy - especially since we were shocked ourselves as well...

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:51 pm

Quoting ZKEOJ (Reply 112):
The most notable "real" crash in my memory was a commuter between Italy and Germany that went down somewhere in the Alps in bad weather

Was that the Bashkirian airlines and DHL accident?

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 42):
If I recall correctly, that crash was notable for another interesting fact - there was a lone survivor from the DC-9. I believe it was a flight attendant who was all the way in the back and rode down in the severed tail section of the plane.

That's a different DC-9 crash. More info here:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19720126-0
 
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:07 am

Quoting EI747SYDNEY (Reply 113):
Was that the Bashkirian airlines and DHL accident?

Nope, it was a few years earlier. I think it was an ATR on th eway from Milan to Dortmund or so. It went into the south side of Alps in bad weather.
 
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:44 pm

Quoting EI747SYDNEY (Reply 103):
Em Planes- Yes
Crash- Yes

Answer yes it was a terrorist incident. But it WAS a plane crash.

Sorry but is it not a plane crash. When planes are hijacked and used as weapons it is terrorism, not a plane crash.

Quoting Jumpseatflyer (Reply 104):
My AIM s/n is American 191

That is probably one of the most famous crashes in American history and if I remember correctly still is the single worst air disaster in this country. AA really screwed up in that one!
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:57 pm

There also was a plane crash in Holland...

an EL-AL Cargo plane crashed into a row of apartments in Bijlmermeer...

lots of mysterious things went on....

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:06 pm

Beyond the major crashes of Tenerife '77 and Sept. 11, 2001, some that I consider noteable:

NorthWest #255 (amazing just one four year old girl survived)
Air Canada #143
American #191
Air France #296
Alloha #243
Delta #191
United #232
Arrow Air #163
Pan Am #103
Air India #182
Egypt Air #990
Air France #296
Alloha #243
United #811
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:36 am

I'm going to dig way back in aviation history, to 1896, when pioneer and inventor Otto Lilienthal perished in one of his gliders. Lilienthal was the person who most inspired the Wright Brothers.

Speaking of the Wrights, September 17, 1908, was the date of the first crash of a Wright aeroplane. The pilot, Orville Wright, survived, but Lt. Thomas Selfridge perished.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/history/preww1/pw12.htm
http://www.first-to-fly.com/History/...of%20Airplane/charley%20furnas.htm

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:11 am

Air Canada/TCA had 2 DC-8 crashes that led to design changes; each of them resulting in over 100 fatalities. The first, in the early 1960s, involved a plane climbing out of YUL and experiencing a runaway stabilizer trim. The second, in the 1970s I think, occurred after the First Officer mistakenly deployed the spoilers shortly before touchdown at YYZ. The resulting extremely hard landing caused the No.4 engine to be torn off the wing after striking the runway. The Captain initiated a go around but a fuel tank in the right wing had been ruptured and an uncontrollable fire resulted. This led to a catastrophic failure of the right wing while the plane was trying to turn back toward the airport. All aboard were killed in the ensuing crash.
 
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:37 am

As LTBEWR said, the Knute Rockne Fokker Trimotor crash, which led to the development of the DC-1 and ultimately the DC-3.
The Hindenburg and R101 airship crashes, which killed off lighter-than-air intercontinental travel.
The de Havilland Comet crashes, which led to safer structures and the dominance of Boeing and Douglas.
The (DC-6?) crash that killed UN Secretary-General Dag Hammarskjold
The Tenerife collision
The Sioux City DC-10, to this day I get tears in my eyes when I see the video of the crash
The JAL 747
The Korean Air Lines and Iran Air shoot-downs

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 116):
Quoting EI747SYDNEY (Reply 103):
Em Planes- Yes
Crash- Yes

Answer yes it was a terrorist incident. But it WAS a plane crash.

Sorry but is it not a plane crash. When planes are hijacked and used as weapons it is terrorism, not a plane crash.

well, if you are going to exclude 9/11 then you also must exclude the two shoot-downs I just mentioned, PA103, the Ethiopian 767 and the Air India 747. They were crashes, but not accidents.
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:47 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 116):
Sorry but is it not a plane crash. When planes are hijacked and used as weapons it is terrorism, not a plane crash.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word crash is defined as "collide violently with an obstacle or another vehicle." It does not state that it has to be accidental....so yes, 9/11 would be plane crashes as they did collide violently with obstacles......
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:14 am

Ariana Boeing 727-100, YA-FAR, that crashed at Gatwick on 5th January 1969. A right mess and the only other crash I've actually seen first hand. 50 of the 65 on board killed and two people in the house it hit, 1.5 miles from the threshold. I actually heard it go in, around 1.30am ish I believe. Cycled down to see the wreckage in the morning. It looked really weird, with the tail section intact and the nose.Wish I'd had a camera then.

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:25 am

I think that no one has posted yet, but if you ask any Brazilian member, the first crash that comes to mind is the TAM Fokker 100, that crashed in 1996, right after t/o from CGH due to an unexpected reverser deployment.
Ironically this aircraft had a special colorscheme because TAM was considered the best regional airline for "Air Transport World": http://images.airliners.net/photos/photos/7/2/2/008227.jpg

Ironically (2): that was flight no. 402 - remember the Eastern L-1011 crash at Miami? - Flight 401!!

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:56 am

I would say IR 655 and KE 007 are quite notable because they were shot down by the military. Lets hope that we won't have any plane crashes in the future.
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:42 am

PSA Boeing 727 and a Cessna 172 over San Diego. 25 Sept 78

http://dnausers.d-n-a.net/dnetGOjg/250978.htm

[Edited 2005-12-05 20:47:40]
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:47 am

Air France Concorde from CDG to NYC (unexpected ,end of an era)
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RE: Most Notable Plane Crashes In History?

Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:58 am

I well rember the BMI 737 that crashed just short of the m1 motorway on its return to east midlands airport.From what I can rember the pilot shut the wrong engine down.I think the other engine had shut down due to lack of oil.
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