Longest A321 Flight

HUYfan · Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:18 pm

I didn't know Novair flew their A321s ARN-LPA-REC!

That has to be the longest A321 flight in the world!

Regards

Mike

CRJ900 · Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:32 pm

MYT Scandinavia and Novair fly their 199-211-seat A321s between Scandinavia and the Canary islands nonstop many times every week, with block times at 5,5-6 hours. I think that's impressive thumbsup

LHR777 · Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:50 pm

I'd imagine BMED run some pretty long routes too....?

BDKLEZ · Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:52 pm

Quoting LHR777 (Reply 2):
I'd imagine BMED run some pretty long routes too....?

Got there just in front of me; blast!

Sketty222 · Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:30 pm

BMED'S LHR-GYD route is around 5hrs 30mins

swiftski · Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:44 pm

The 319s UK-Canada routes are even more impressive IMO

GatwickA320 · Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:16 pm

I know of an airline which I might just work for that fly and A321 to SSH

LXA340 · Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:19 pm

I could imagine the BMED's LHR-THR route is amongst the longest ones with a westbound flying time of 6H30 mins. flight is operated with A320 and A321's.

787kq · Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:42 pm

Those are longer. Air Ivoire also has a long flight between ABJ and MRS.

MRS (43°26'12"N 05°12'54"E) ABJ (05°15'41"N 03°55'35"W) 194° (S) 2335 nm
ARN (59°39'07"N 17°55'07"E) LPA (27°55'55"N 15°23'12"W) 230° (SW) 2342 nm
LPA (27°55'55"N 15°23'12"W) REC (08°07'36"S 34°55'23"W) 210° (SW) 2435 nm

HUYfan · Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:55 pm

LPA-REC seems to be the longest route served nonstop.

BMED only fly the 321 to THR, never the 320.

The longest single sector flights seem to be

LPA-REC 2435nm
LHR-THR 2389nm
ARN-LPA 2342nm

The longest multi-sector

ARN-LPA-REC 4777nm
LHR-TBS-FRU 3244nm
LHR-HBE-ADD 3224nm

It is clear to see that Novair really stretch their 321s

Any more additions?

Regards

Mike

diesel1 · Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:42 pm

Didn't I read about a new service from somewhere in Pakistan (Islamabad perhaps...) to MAN, with a stop at Istanbul?

Istanbul to Manchester, is nothing special, but what about Islamabad to Istanbul?

Flighty · Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:27 am

PHL-SFO on US is 2191 nm, several times daily.

HUYfan · Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:33 am

Yep, MAN-ESB-ISB is another good one to add to the list, had forgotten all about that one!

MAN-ESB 1634nm
ESB-ISB 1953nm

MAN-ESB-ISB 3587nm

According to the Air Ivoire website, some of their ABJ-ORY and vice versa, operate nonstop which is 2621nm.

Another long multi sector is BMED's weekly LHR-BEY-ADD

LHR-BEY 1883nm
BEY-ADD 1497nm

LHR-BEY-ADD 3380nm

Nope, no extra fuel tank for BMED's 321s.

Regards

Mike

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Viscount724 · Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:43 am

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 9):
BMED only fly the 321 to THR, never the 320.

I believe BMED's aircraft have an extra fuel tank in the cargo compartment to increase range.

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 5):
The 319s UK-Canada routes are even more impressive IMO

AC's YYT-LHR route is the only Canada-UK A319 route and it's not that far, 2012 naut. mi., scheduled time 5 hrs eastbound, 5:35 westbound. AC has quite a few longer nonstop sectors using the A319, both domestic and international.

Sketty222 · Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:53 am

Also BMED'S LHR-DKR route is quite long at 6hsr 20mins.

Lee

steady eddie · Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:54 am

BMED have to have the extra tank, without it the 321 (AKA Dusty Bin) cant even get as far as LXR

HUYfan · Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:34 am

BMED have the A321-200. There are no extra tanks. Remember they only have 149 seats.

Regards

Mike

theginge · Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:10 am

BMED do have an ACT in the A321's, which I believe stands for Additional Centre Tank. Guess BMI will be keeping these ones for the longer range BMED routes. BMED have on occasions run a full A320 non stop both ways between LHR-THR when one of the A321's has had a tech problem. This can onlt be done westbound if the winds / Temp are favourable. If they not even the A321's cannot make it non stop sometimes.
I believe a BMED A320 also made it from Bishkek to Stansted non stop many years ago as well.

kc135topboom · Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:37 am

Didn't BA fly the RN and RM hostiges home from THR to LHR in an A-321 last week?

airivoireA321 · Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:15 pm

Air ivoire Fly the A321 betwen Ivory Coast and France. its a long flight between 5-6hours *_*
Ben

jacobin777 · Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:57 pm

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 10):
Didn't I read about a new service from somewhere in Pakistan (Islamabad perhaps...) to MAN, with a stop at Istanbul?

Istanbul to Manchester, is nothing special, but what about Islamabad to Istanbul?

...should be starting soon! I think ED will run it with the A321 until they get some A330's or A340's ..but I'm not 100% certain as they haven't placed a definitive order yet....

Chinook747 · Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:12 pm

AC and 5G also operate charters between YYC-VRA on a A321/320..but I am not sure of the distance. It is not as far as some of the routes mentioned previously, but, it is stil quite a distance.

BDKLEZ · Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:57 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 18):
Didn't BA fly the RN and RM hostiges home from THR to LHR in an A-321 last week?

Yes, but the flight was operated by BMED (a BA franchise partner who at the time had been absorbed into the BD group). The aircraft in question was G-MEDL. Smile

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steady eddie · Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:24 pm

the A320 has much better range than a 321, I know of a 320 that operated LGW-BJL before now, the 321's sometimes struggle to get back from the Canaries to the UK with a bit of wind on the hooter

Curiousflyer · Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:59 am

How is it to travel long-haul (or almost long-haul) in those 320/321?

No PTVs?
No extra legroom?
No proper long haul business class?

Are they like the Privatair or AF Dedicate services where the planes are re-fitted for long-haul or does it just plain suck?

HUYfan · Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:00 am

BMED operates 8 A321/A320 of which, 3 have PTVs in World Traveller, one with on demand. So if you're lucky, you do get good entertainment on some flights, although to be honest, we have more problems with the PTV system than we ever have with the standard drop down LCD set-up. All BMED a/c have PTVs in Club.

BMED operate with the older style BA cradle seats. We have in the past, had comments from passengers that our cradle seats are better than BA's old lie flat Club beds. I am 5ft7 and had to scrunch up on my BA club bed, so anything taller than me must have had real problems. I cannot speak for the new club beds, I am sure they must have gone some way to addressing the length issue.

The A321 for longhaul is not ideal, but there are just some markets, for example Bishkek and Khartoum that do not justify anything bigger.

Regards

Mike

DiscoverCSG · Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:51 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 18):
Didn't BA fly the RN and RM hostiges home from THR to LHR in an A-321 last week?

This was a regularly scheduled flights by BMED (branded as BA).

2travel2know · Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:14 am

I don't know if JM ever took its A321 MBJ-LAX, +2353nm..
LAX is(was) served from MBJ so KIN-LAX (+2426nm) might have never happened...

vadheim · Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:34 am

There are many long A321 routes from Scandinavia.

From Norway we frequently have A321 charters from/to;

Oslo - Malmö - Dubai - Goa (Novair) 11h40min
Oslo - Las Palmas - Natal (Novair) 11h45min
Oslo - Tenerife - Banjul (My Travel) 8h05min
Bodø - Las Palmas (Spanair) 6h35min
Harstad/Narvik - Las Palmas (Spanair) 6h45min
Tromsø - Palma - Las Palmas (Spanair) 7h55min
Trondheim - Tenerife (Spanair) 6h

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Clydenairways · Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:40 pm

Spanair have some really long A321 flights from the Canaries to Finland, Baltic states etc

ThePRGuy · Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:52 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 18):
Didn't BA fly the RN and RM hostiges home from THR to LHR in an A-321 last week?

That was BMED.

Looks like BA at the moment, not sure what bmi's ownership is gona do to that Smile

Thanks
Alex

raffik · Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:28 pm

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 24):
How is it to travel long-haul (or almost long-haul) in those 320/321?

No PTVs?
No extra legroom?

I flew Toronto-Heathrow on an AC 767 with no PTV or extra legroom and it was fine!
The Business class seats didn't look special either!

A342 · Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:47 pm

Quoting Vadheim (Reply 28):
Harstad/Narvik - Las Palmas (Spanair) 6h45min

This must be the longest leg on the A321. 4977km / 2687nm.

vadheim · Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:05 pm

Yes, it is a very long flight from Evenes Airport (EVE - Harstad/Narvik) in Northern Norway to Las Palmas, Gran Canaria. I think they sometimes need fuelstop if strong winds etc.

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OHLHD · Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:16 pm

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 24):
No PTVs?
No extra legroom?
No proper long haul business class?

QR for example is using their A320´s to VIE which is westbound 5:40 to 6h and east bound 4:50 to 5:20 and they have a proper J-Class with 12 seats in 2-2 config and 132 y-class and it is quite comftable. There are no PTV´s in eco but....as I said before many times on this forum... let´s read a book or just watch the movie which is shown. The legroom in Eco is fine and I have done the EU Doha route from MUC,ZRH and VIE and trust me I do not see any difference in terms of legroom and legspace. It is not so bad to be on a narrowbody that long. Smile

Plus with the QR service on board it is even more fantastic!

Quoting Vadheim (Reply 28):
Troms�alma - Las Palmas (Spanair) 7h55min

WOW is this Non-Stop? AFAIK the max which a A321 with a ACT can go without restrictions is about 7 hours?

A342 · Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:23 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 34):
WOW is this Non-Stop?

No! Have a look at what he really said!

Quoting Vadheim (Reply 28):
Tromsø - Palma - Las Palmas (Spanair) 7h55min

scbriml · Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:42 pm

I flew on a Bmed A321 LHR-SVX-ALA in March last year. Someone who knows how to look up the distance will have to check that for me. Nice flight (if somewhat long!)

A342 · Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:42 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 36):
I flew on a Bmed A321 LHR-SVX-ALA in March last year. Someone who knows how to look up the distance will have to check that for me. Nice flight (if somewhat long!)

You can look up the distance here: http://gc.kls2.com .

777way · Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:05 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 20):
should be starting soon! I think ED will run it with the A321

Air Blue will indeed be using an A321 routed Islamabad-Ankara-Manchester from 1 June, Ankara will only be a technical stopover for refuelling, just for information code "ED" is showing Edelweiss Airways and not Air Blue at this site.

cornish · Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:11 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 38):
Air Blue will indeed be using an A321 routed Islamabad-Ankara-Manchester from 1 June, Ankara will only be a technical stopover for refuelling, just for information code "ED" is showing Edelweiss Airways and not Air Blue at this site.

The aircraft is wet-leased from a Turkish airline, I forget which one. Which probably explains the choice of Ankara as the tech stop.

OHLHD · Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:23 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 35):
No! Have a look at what he really said!

Sorry I couldn´t read it right, as I am here in Rio at a friend´s computer. Smile

Quoting Vadheim (Reply 33):
Yes, it is a very long flight from Evenes Airport (EVE - Harstad/Narvik) in Northern Norway to Las Palmas, Gran Canaria. I think they sometimes need fuelstop if strong winds etc.

How many pax do the A321 seat?

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