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Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:47 am

I was looking through some online timetables and came across AerSvit's flight 1273, a 5 hour 20 min. flight from Kiev to Dubai on a "classic" 737-300.

This brought me to wonder what exactly is the longest route operated by the 737-300 might be.

Any ideas?
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:06 am

I don't know about now, but I believe there were 737-300s operating transcontinental routes in the United States before the 737NGs and A320s became prominant.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:13 am

I know US did PIT-ABQ at one point. Others have included PHL-ABQ as well. Didn't I hear WN scheduling a lightly loaded 733 from PHL on a trans con with fifty something people? I am pretty sure european airlines have some long ones as well.

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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:54 am

CO ran FLL-LAS back in the mid 90's with a 737-300
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:32 pm

CO also did ORD-SAN with a 733; I know in the past when US still had the subfleet of 733LRs that they did both IND-SFO and IND-LAX on them...
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:39 pm

CO ran transcons with 733's back in the day...EWR-SEA was one of them...a friend of mine took that flight.

US did CLT/PIT-LAX/SFO/SEA at one point or another with those planes in the pre A32S era.
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:42 pm



Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 1):
I don't know about now, but I believe there were 737-300s operating transcontinental routes in the United States before the 737NGs and A320s became prominant.



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
I know US did PIT-ABQ at one point. Others have included PHL-ABQ

US also ran PDX-PIT in the mid/late 90's using one.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:02 pm

Canadian Pacific Airlines / Canadi>n used to operate the B737-300 (and the -200 too!) from YUL to YVR, 2295 miles, and scheduled at 6:00 block to block.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:07 pm

Looks like YUL-YVR has it so far... and it's almost certainly longer than any US domestic route they would have run.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:10 pm

Jeesh these are some long runs in a 733. Anyone recall seat configurations for these a/c?

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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:11 pm

i have done in a charter ZIH-YYZ back in 1978...2203 mi
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:20 pm



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 9):
Jeesh these are some long runs in a 733. Anyone recall seat configurations for these a/c?

At US, they were in (or very close to) the configuration you see now, but IIRC they had auxiliary fuel tanks.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:25 pm

Yes, we did EWR-SAN/SNA/SJC/SFO/SEA back in the day with the 733s. We even did SAN-EWR on the MD-80 (jumpseated many times on that one).
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:37 pm



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 9):
Jeesh these are some long runs in a 733. Anyone recall seat configurations for these a/c?

At CP it varied depending on the service offered. Initially it was named Attache and it was configured, 8F and 68J on the -200 and 8F/76J on the -300. The J seats were convertible seats which became 8F 102Y on the -200 and 114Y on the -300. That's right, there were some F/J only flights on some transcon B737s!

At Canadi>n, the -200 were eventually configured 12J and 88Y.

The -300s had standard fuel and the flight was well within the range. The -200s were equipped with -17 engines, 128,000 MTOW, and a fourth fuel tank in the forward half of the rear cargo hold. Also, well within the range, as it was equipped.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:14 pm

All Y was 20 row of 3-3 if i remember correctly
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:17 pm

Although not non-stop, Turkmenistan used to send 737 Classics to LHR. I think it stopped in Kiev, or somewhere in Eastern Europe.

Also, flyGlobespan sometimes substitute their 757 with 738s, flying all the way to Glasgow from Sanford, via Bangor and or Rejkyavik!
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:29 pm

CO also ran a 733 from SFO-IAD (night flight) a distance of 2454 miles in the late 80's or early 90's.
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:45 pm

Here's some quick data that I pulled together for the past 8 yrs or so

All the data comes from June schedules:

Year......Distance......Carrier..........................Market
2000......2519............Air Malta KM................MLA-DXB
2001......2174............Bulgarian Airlines LZ.....SOF-DXB
2002......2237............Fischer Air 8F..............PRG-SPC
2003......2318............Fischer Air 8F..............LPA-OSR
2004......2163............Aerosvit Airlines VV......DXB-KBP
2005......2163............Aerosvit Airlines VV......DXB-KBP
2006......3147............Air Malawi Limited QM..DXB-BLZ (operated one-way)
2007......2090............KD Avia KD..................KGD-TSE
2008......2455............Air Baltic......................ALA-RIX
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:46 pm

I have flown both PHL-PHX and LAS-PHL on a 733 back in 1999 with US
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:48 pm

NY Air ran a 300 IAD-LAX. It has been discussed here several times.
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:58 pm



Quoting LongHauler (Reply 7):
Canadian Pacific Airlines / Canadi>n used to operate the B737-300 (and the -200 too!) from YUL to YVR, 2295 miles, and scheduled at 6:00 block to block.

I may be wrong but I can't recall CP's few 737-300s ever being used regularly on the YUL-YVR nonstop route, but perhaps there were occasional substitutions. I used to travel almost monthly YVR-YUL-YVR when I worked for CP and it was always a 737-200Adv (DC-8 in earlier years). I'm fairly certain the Attache service (F/J only) on CP's -300s was also never offered on YUL-YVR nonstops.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 5):
US did CLT/PIT-LAX/SFO/SEA at one point or another with those planes in the pre A32S era.



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):
Looks like YUL-YVR has it so far... and it's almost certainly longer than any US domestic route they would have run.

No, it looks like CLT-SFO is the winnter so far. It's one mile further than YUL-YVR.
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:09 pm

The longest flight on a 737-300 I have flown on was LBA (Leeds Bradford) to LPA (Las Palmas) with Jet2.com. Apparently it is 3048 km (1894 miles)

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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:14 pm



Quoting YULYMX (Reply 10):
i have done in a charter ZIH-YYZ back in 1978...2203 mi

On a 733? In 1978? You sure?

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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:15 pm

Here's the US carriers longest flights on the 733.

All the data comes from June schedules:

Year......Distance......Carrier..........................Market
2000......2174............US Airways US.............LAS-PHL
2001......2018............Continental CO.............CLE-SEA
2002......1971............Continental CO.............IAH-YVR
2003......1889............Southwest WN.............RDU-PHX
2004......1750............Continental CO.............IAH-YYC
2005......1971............Continental CO.............IAH-YVR
2006......1875............Continental CO.............IAH-SEA
2007......1875............Continental CO.............IAH-SEA
2008......2430............Continental CO.............EWR-PDX
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:22 pm

Back in 1991-92 AA flew a MD-80 on LAX-IAD, I think it was a redeye east bound only. I am also certain that US must have flown a 733 or 734 on CLT-SFO. CO I think slao flew a 733 on LAX-IAD in 1990 or so.
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:25 pm



Quoting Greenguy01 (Reply 23):
2008......2430............Continental CO.............EWR-PDX

 Wow!  Wow!
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:29 pm



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 24):
CO I think slao flew a 733 on LAX-IAD in 1990 or so.

CO did. It was a 3 day trip. IAD-LAX-SAN (overnight) SAN-LAX-IAD.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:31 pm

US also flew LAX-BWI with a 733 in the early 90's (nonstop heading east, stopped in LAS heading west)
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:34 pm



Quoting Sevenair (Reply 15):

Also, flyGlobespan sometimes substitute their 757 with 738s, flying all the way to Glasgow from Sanford, via Bangor and or Rejkyavik!

I know for sure US and other carriers put some miles on those 733's back in the day. Heres my favorite:

EWR-PDX on the 733.

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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:45 pm



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 24):
Back in 1991-92 AA flew a MD-80 on LAX-IAD, I think it was a redeye east bound only. I am also certain that US must have flown a 733 or 734 on CLT-SFO. CO I think slao flew a 733 on LAX-IAD in 1990 or so.

I actually think that AA red-eye on the MD-80 made it into this century, but I'm not sure. It was eastbound only and had to have been on a MD-83 to make it. I also think it didn't operate in the summer when there are few to no prevailing East blowing winds.

As far as US, PIT & CLT saw both 300 and 400 service to all of the West Coast cities until the 319's arrived. They still had the LR versions with the AUX fuel tanks until BK1. The LAX-PHL red-eye was operated with a 300 the winter of 97 or 98, whenever they closed the LAX crew base. CLT-LAX operated with a 400 into the fall of 2000, and it turned and did the 3pm LAX-PHL flight that was O/D only.

You've got to remember that the 737's US used for long-haul had audio, movies, and hot meals in both classes.
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:50 pm



Quoting Phllax (Reply 29):
You've got to remember that the 737's US used for long-haul had audio, movies, and hot meals in both classes.

We used to carve chateaubriand in the aisle on a tiered cart on the 733 transcon. Hot meals with a choice in the back. Ah, the good ole days. Things to talk about with the new hires.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:09 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 30):
We used to carve chateaubriand in the aisle on a tiered cart on the 733 transcon

That must have been in the 1980s....even when I worked at AA in the mid 1990s meal service had been scaled back
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:14 pm



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 31):
That must have been in the 1980s....even when I worked at AA in the mid 1990s meal service had been scaled back

As late as 1988-1990.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:06 pm



Quoting Phllax (Reply 29):
I actually think that AA red-eye on the MD-80 made it into this century, but I'm not sure. It was eastbound only

CO's SAN-EWR M80 was eastward-only, but IIRC the AA IAD-LAX claimed to be nonstop both ways in the early 1990s.
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:09 pm



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 5):
CO ran transcons with 733's back in the day...EWR-SEA was one of them...a friend of mine took that flight.

Really! Was there anything different about these 300s from normal ones?
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:10 pm

I found CO's 733 EWR-SJC (2548 statute miles) in the 1988 OAG, but I haven't found EWR to SFO or SAN or SEA or PDX or SNA. Anybody know when any of that was?

Oh yeah-- I vaguely recall EWR-ONT on a CO 733, probably in the 1980s. Anybody find that?

[Edited 2008-02-29 15:11:47]
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:18 pm

UA used to use them ORD-LAS before Ted.AFAIK,it was the last departure of the day for there.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:21 pm

In '87/'88 we flew EWR-SAN/SJC/SNA on the 733, subs to SEA/SFO happened (I worked them enough (and carved enough chateau in the aisle)). This June 14th, CO 384 EWR-PDX is a 733 (0900 departure).

We also had a 5 day trip on the 733 that went EWR-MEX-JFK-MEX-EWR. Not as far as a transcon, but still a 5 hour flight in a 733 each way.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:41 pm

US did some transcons from all of their hubs, I flew one in 98 from PIT-LAX, it had an extra fuel compartment, life rafts, and tv's
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:24 am

Thomsonfly do MAN-Las Palmas-MAN in the summer on the 733, that can extend up to 4hr50min trip each way.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:14 am



Quoting JetSetter629 (Reply 18):
I have flown both PHL-PHX and LAS-PHL on a 733 back in 1999 with US

I remember walking through the PIT terminal some 10 years ago, and saw that a flight to PHX was to depart soon. Given how far this was, I assumed it was going to be with a 757-type aircraft, but to my surprise it was a 733...
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:41 am

I think the longest for UA was SFO-ATL. This was operated by a 733 until the 320 arrived.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:16 am

I've operated some long ones on the 737-300 / 500, including RIX-TLV. RIX-HEGN and RIX-TAS.

Longest block time I had was around 5.20 one way.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:39 am



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 24):
I am also certain that US must have flown a 733 or 734 on CLT-SFO.



Quoting Phllax (Reply 29):
CLT-LAX operated with a 400 into the fall of 2000, and it turned and did the 3pm LAX-PHL flight

Okay, so what is the longest flight for the 737-400?
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:51 am



Quoting LawnDart (Reply 43):

Okay, so what is the longest flight for the 737-400?

Started thread.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:25 am

How about TA SAL-SFO ?
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:37 am



Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 41):
I think the longest for UA was SFO-ATL. This was operated by a 733 until the 320 arrived.

UA flew SFO-YYZ in the late 80's with the 733.
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:07 am

Does anybody know about the post made earlier about CO's EWR-PDX on the 733? I'm trying to look for it in the schedules...
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:30 pm



Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 45):
How about TA SAL-SFO ?

Right, we forgot that one. If it really was nonstop it's the longest anybody's found yet.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 47):
about CO's EWR-PDX on the 733?

No sign of it in the 1980s-- I can't figure out when he was saying it existed.

It seems CO started 733s EWR-SAN, EWR-ONT and EWR-SJC on 15 Oct 1987-- they're all in the 11/87 OAG. In 2/88 EWR-ONT was gone and EWR-SAN was 733 westward and M80 eastward-- likewise 4/88-- in 6/88 EWR-SAN was an A300 both ways. The EWR-SJC nonstop was in the 4/88 but not the 6/88.

Haven't found any transcon 733s to/from SNA; HP started 757s to/from JFK in 1991 and I don't see any nonstops before that.
 
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RE: Longest 733 Route (?)

Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:34 pm



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 47):
Does anybody know about the post made earlier about CO's EWR-PDX on the 733? I'm trying to look for it in the schedules...



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 37):
This June 14th, CO 384 EWR-PDX is a 733 (0900 departure).

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