ba777pilot
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What to chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:31 am

Good day to all,

In early July i will be taking a trip to CMN (Casablanca, morocco) and i can either straight from ATL on the a340 (the only a/c AF use on this route) then connect in CDG or i can go from JFK and connect in CDG which allows me to go on a verity of aircraft. Both prices are similar but my question is, which aircraft has the best Tempo (economy) on AF.

a330?
a340?
b747?
b777-200?
or777-300?
or i can go on the DL 767-300er from CDG-->ATL

anyone who has been on any of these a/c and can share their experience on AF,will be much appreciated as i am excited to go on a wide body after 5 or 6 years and i would like to make it worth it.
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aaflt1871
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Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:48 am



Quoting Ba777pilot (Thread starter):

a330?
a340?
b747?
b777-200?
or777-300?
or i can go on the DL 767-300er from CDG-->ATL

From that list, take the A340 and the 747 off of the list and go with either a 777 or A330.
Where did everybody go?
 
ba777pilot
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Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:54 am



Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 1):

From that list, take the A340 and the 747 off of the list and go with either a 777 or A330.

i have seen a few pictures of the a340 in the picture database and i can agree but may i ask, why the 747....the cabin looks decent as well as the 777 and a330.
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Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:57 am



Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 1):
From that list, take the A340 and the 747 off of the list and go with either a 777 or A330.

The A340 is the quietest of them all. Otherwise I would prefer either the A330 or A340 in Y class due to their 2-4-2 seating. AF is converting many of their 777-300ERs (or maybe all eventually?) from 9 abreast (3-3-3) to 10 abreast (3-4-3) which I would want to avoid at any cost.
 
PDXCessna206
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What to chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:59 am

I was comfortable with the A340. Overall I thought Air France was great. The food wasn't awful but there was sure a heck of a lot of it. However I am not as picky as some are on here. Big grin
 
mindscape
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What to chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:02 am

Hello Ba777pilot,

Depends on what you are looking for and what your qualify as most important for your trip in Tempo class.
Seating configuration, comfort and seat pitch:
- A332 and A343: 2-4-2 seating layout, old Y seats, 32"
- B772: 3-3-3, old Y seats, 32"
- B77W: most of them 3-3-3 but JFK with YUL sees also the new 3-4-3 layout, new Y seats and brand new Y seats in 3-4-3, 32" though i had the impression to have more legrooms in the new 3-4-3 confg...
- B744: 3-4-3, old Y seats, 32" except on the upper deck with 34"

PTV and AVOD:
- A332, A343, B772, B77W: PTV in Tempo with kinda AVOD, may be you will be lucky to have the new in flight system installed as AF is in process to replace its old fashion entertainment program with a brand new one but don't know how many aircrafts have been implemented yet...
- B744: no PTV in Tempo section on the main desk except for the 3 latest aircraft F-GITH, GITI, GITJ. However the Tempo section on the upper deck has PTV, but not VOD with old thick personal screens...

I would try to fly on the upper deck of the AF B744 if in flight entertainment is not an important criteria... The upper deck has a cosy feeling and features more legrooms, and you are on the upper deck ! Plus B744s are about to be retired from the AF fleet, so better enjoying them now. Those seats are difficult to get as they are reserved for Elite status frequent travelers flying Y.
If you care for comfort and PTV with kinda AVOD, then take the A332 or A343 over the B772/B77W... I prefer 2-4-2 over 3-3-3 and of course 3-4-3 seating even if the seats are newer. It is sad that unfortunately the B777 is AF workhorse and they will retrofit all their B77W mainland in a 3-4-3 config in Tempo. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the T7, but 3-4-3 in Y is something i would avoid if I have the choice... Anyhow, this is my two cents opinion...

Bon voyage !
 
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Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:12 am



Quoting Ba777pilot (Thread starter):

Why would a BA 777 pilot need to take AF anywhere? Couldn't he simply non-rev on a BA flight?  duck 
Change is: one airline, six continents!
 
TGV
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What to chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:16 am

Go 340/330, with their 2-4-2 config. The 340 is very quiet (far quieter than 777).

Or go 747, but take a seat on the upper deck where the pitch is far better than non the lower deck, and the small cabin quieter. To pre-reserve on the upper deck you have to be Elite, but at normal check-in anybody can get a seat there, do Electronic check-in in advance to be sure.

Avoid the 777: they are the less comfortable of the lot, with 3-3-3 config, and now some even with 3-4-3 config !
Avoid 777 with 3-4-3 config in Y ! They are real sardine cans
 
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Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:22 am



Quoting Mindscape (Reply 5):
- B744: 3-4-3, old Y seats, 32" except on the upper deck with 34"

If I'm not mistaken it's actually 31" downstairs and 36" on the upper deck...
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What to chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:21 am



Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 8):
If I'm not mistaken it's actually 31" downstairs and 36" on the upper deck...

Mindscape is right. It's 32" on the main deck, except a few rows at 31", and some at 33". And 34" at the upper deck. I don't yhink you can fit 60 seats at the upper deck of a B744 with a 36" pitch in a 3x3 layout.
 
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What to chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:11 am

I cannot understand why AF is not reconsidering its A340s , it is the still the RIGHT plane at the RIGHT time !
I whish they could fly CDG - NCE from time to time , instead of these boring 77W !!!!

dennys
 
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Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:34 am



Quoting Dennys (Reply 10):
I cannot understand why AF is not reconsidering its A340s , it is the still the RIGHT plane at the RIGHT time !

The A343 is a good and great plane but it is not at all the RIGHT plane at the RIGHT time for AF. Well, it used to be 15 years go but not anymore now.
Most of the flight to Africa operated with the A343 could be operated by a much more efficient A333 on such medium distances. Idem to North America (ATL, YYZ, ORD, YUL, BOS).
And instead of the A343, the B772ER could be used to all other destinations out of reach for the A333 like BKK, SFO, GRU/GIG etc ...
 
plairbus
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What to chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:54 pm

Go with the A 330, it is the best economy! Nice trip.
 
Hirnie
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What to chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:02 pm

I've been on the A343 and it was far better then the the B744, I´ve been on as well.
I would take the A343, pretty quiet and the 2-4-2- layout is the best you can get out of the AF-fleet.
 
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RE: What To Chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:01 am



Quoting Ba777pilot (Thread starter):
or i can go on the DL 767-300er from CDG-->ATL

you can fly ATL-CDG on a 764 too which are great planes and a little harder to fly on.
Also might want to look at AF won't have 744s much longer many want to grab it when you can.
 
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RE: What To Chose AF A330,a340,772,773,747?

Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:20 am

Have only flew AF twice, both legs on the A340 and had a great experience - great food, fresh bread, free wine and good IFE.

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