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How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:20 am

I've always had a problem pronouncing Scandinavian airport and airline names, especially those that contain the letter Φ, as in widroe for example.

Recently, I tried to pronounce Vueling as well! Is it 'vweling' or 'voiling'?
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:41 am

If you speak English, Vueling would sound something like Vuwelling (with a short u and a longer e)
Wideroe something like Vihderrow
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:43 am

The Norwegian Ø is usually pronouced similar to the (germen) ö as in Köln (The way the germans prounouce Cologne)

[Edited 2009-09-04 01:45:05]
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:27 am

...and how about Aurigny? how do you pronounce that?
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:32 am



Quoting Embajador3 (Reply 3):
...and how about Aurigny? how do you pronounce that?

I think its Oreeney (thats how it sounded when the check-in person was saying it the other day at LGW)
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:46 am



Quoting Embajador3 (Reply 3):

Embajador, you're Spanish right?! Tell me how to pronounce Vueling the correct, Spanish way  Smile

Aurigny sounds like O'rinee. Any suggestions?

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 2):
The Norwegian Ø is usually pronouced similar to the (germen) ö

So I've been misspelling Grønland for my entire life  Smile
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:06 am



Quoting OD-BWH (Reply 5):
Embajador, you're Spanish right?! Tell me how to pronounce Vueling the correct, Spanish way

Aurigny sounds like O'rinee.

I have covered Vueling pretty well in my answer, I know Spanish. Plus it's not a true spanish word, more spanglish (vuelo and flying).
Orinney is also a good discription. I always said something like Orickney til my trip to the Channels last december and everyone said Orinney
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:36 am



Quoting OD-BWH (Reply 5):
Tell me how to pronounce Vueling the correct, Spanish way

Something like "booeleen" (= vuelo + in) in spanish
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:40 am

Interesting topic!

Is it true that you pronounce Braathens something like Brodens?

I noticed that most people in America say LuftHANsa. The German way would be LUFThansa.

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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:45 am

In Spain, as they pronounce their B's and V's the other way round, it's Bueling and Iveria. Well that's the way the Spanish guys I work with pronounce it anyway.
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:49 am



Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 8):
Is it true that you pronounce Braathens something like Brodens?

Using the letter 'å', it would be "Bråtens". Norwegian (nor Danish) don't have 'å' though, so they use a double 'a'.

In English, it would be something like "Broa'tens", where "Broa" sounds like "Broad" minus the 'd'.

Vuelling - I guess a German with just a little knowledge in English would wonder why they are filling gas/petrol all the time  Smile
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:00 am

I have noticed three ways used to pronounce 'Vueling'

I originally thought it was 'Vway-ling'

Brit's use 'View-ling'

VLG Pilots use 'Vo-ling'
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:09 am

Quoting Caribillo (Reply 7):
Something like "booeleen" (= vuelo + in) in spanish


Quoting Fcogafa (Reply 11):
I originally thought it was 'Vway-ling'
Try "Vwelin". It is more accurate to the spanish sound.

"Vu" = "boo" in english
"e" = similar to the sound of "a" in "many".
"ling" = "lin"

So, that is how you have to pronounce VLG (because it is an spanish company, right?
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:27 am



Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 8):
I noticed that most people in America say LuftHANsa. The German way would be LUFThansa

Native English speakers tend very often to put the stress on the second syllable, like you say, Luft-HAN-sa, also I-BEER-ia, O-LYM-pic. Also in placenames, such as Tan-ZAN-ia, Azer-BAI-jan, Conn-ECT-icut, Miss-OURI, An-TARC-tic, Mor-ROCCO, Al-GERIA, Le-SO-tho, In-DO-nesia, etc. There are plenty of exceptions, of course, but this is very common, particularly when pronouncing foreign words or names.
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:21 pm



Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 8):
Is it true that you pronounce Braathens something like Brodens?

I thought it was Bra-Athens  Smile What does it mean anyways?
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:04 pm



Quoting OD-BWH (Reply 14):
I thought it was Bra-Athens What does it mean anyways?

Braathens was founded by Ludvig G. Braathen.....so it's just a Norwegian surname
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:36 pm



Quoting LHRjc (Reply 9):
In Spain, as they pronounce their B's and V's the other way round, it's Bueling and Iveria. Well that's the way the Spanish guys I work with pronounce it anyway.

The letter V in spanish has the same pronounciation as the letter B. So Vueling should be read Bueling. Now Iberia is read just like in other latin languages, Iberia with B sound, not V like you did, and the vowel "I" in spanish is pronounced like an "E".
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:55 am

This is a bit tangential, but this is the reason why Air Canada chose such odd names for their subsidiaries. Jazz, Tango, and Zip are all the same in English and French.
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:28 am

Ok, how about "Ilyushin" and "Dornier"? I've seen those names written, but never heard them spoken before.

And how about "Embraer", but for different a reason. I've heard it pronounced two different ways -- "Em-bree-AIR" and "Em-BRAY-er". I'm not sure which is the correct pronunciation.
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:13 pm



Quoting Yflyer (Reply 18):
"Ilyushin" and "Dornier"?

I pronounce Dornier as DORN-E-YA although some people pronounce the last sylable with more of a ERRR sound

Ilyushin is one that I have no clue how to properly pronounced but I say ILL-LIRU-SHIN altough a Russian speaker would probably pronounce it totally different.

Quoting Yflyer (Reply 18):
And how about "Embraer",

I just flew on a DJ E190 and the crew said "Em-BRAY-er" and thats the way I have always pronounced it.
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:36 pm



Quoting Yflyer (Reply 18):
Ok, how about "Ilyushin" and "Dornier"? I've seen those names written, but never heard them spoken before.

Ilyushin is not written in the original script, i.e., I believe it's spelled exactly the way it should be pronounced. Russian letters are not Latin, that's why I think whoever came up with this spelling made sure it's correctly pronounced.

Vueling for example is written in the original, Spanish script, which happens to be Latin!
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:43 pm



Quoting Yflyer (Reply 18):
And how about "Embraer",

This isn't that big of a deal because Embraer is an acronym. It really stands for Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica, S. A.
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:53 pm

Quoting LHRjc (Reply 9):
In Spain, as they pronounce their B's and V's the other way round, it's Bueling and Iveria. Well that's the way the Spanish guys I work with pronounce it anyway.

No, It used to be the other way around: V sounded /v/ and B sounded /b/.

But that distinction was lost many centuries ago and now both V and B sound /b/.

[Edited 2009-09-05 13:55:26]
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:12 pm

Great thread. The one that has always puzzled me is "Kelowna". I've always pronounced it "kee-LO-nah". Am I close?
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:44 am



Quoting N49WA (Reply 23):
Great thread. The one that has always puzzled me is "Kelowna". I've always pronounced it "kee-LO-nah". Am I close?

No, it's Kuh-LO-nah" (Kuh, not Kee).
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:52 am

As for Embraer, " Em-bra-AIR" will do. Em as in the letter M, bra as what sports cars wear in black or clear on their hood fronts, and air as in the English word for what lungs and politicians are full of.


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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:14 am

Ok, I know it is an acronym but VARIG. I heard one guy say it like (Vehrigg) and another person say it like (Vaaraghey).

Bombardier. I've always said it as (Baum bar dee'ay) but I heard on a flight someone say (Bombard'e'urr).
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:45 pm



Quoting SANAV8R (Reply 26):
Bombardier. I've always said it as (Baum bar dee'ay)

AFAIK it's correct this way. This is a French-Canadian name.


I also used to hear French people pronouncing KLM as Kay-LeM, which sounded pretty interesting to me.

How about SAS? is it pronounced as Es-Aih-Es or as Sas (on word)?
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:40 pm



Quoting OD-BWH (Reply 27):
How about SAS? is it pronounced as Es-Aih-Es

This is correct. Of course, it also is an acronym. Come to think of it a lot of airlines are, like the lack of a u in Qantas.
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:20 am

Thought of another; EVA. I've heard (EhvAAh) or (EEevah) .
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:02 am



Quoting EBGARN (Reply 10):
Using the letter 'å', it would be "Bråtens". Norwegian (nor Danish) don't have 'å' though, so they use a double 'a'.

We do have the letter Å in our alphabet. We got it in 1948 and the norwegians in 1917. Therefore family names which are older than 1917 in Norway use double A. In Denmark thwe correct spelling is with Å and not double A, but some cities have got dispensation to write the name with double A instead of Å, eg Aalborg instead of Ålborg
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:45 pm

Braathens: Broatens

Widerøe: Wideroe
 
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:00 pm

VARIG = VAAh-rig

(The A sounds as in "act", not as in "air")
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RE: How To Pronounce Vueling, Widroe

Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:04 pm



Quoting SANAV8R (Reply 29):
Thought of another; EVA. I've heard (EhvAAh) or (EEevah) .

Their name is more correctly pronounced as the 3 separate letters (EE-VEE-AY), not as a word, just like TWA was pronounded as the 3 letters separately, not as "twah" like a word. Same thing with SAS.

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