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Big Airports That Don't Get A Major Aircraft Type?

Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:18 pm

I was thinking earlier about how few ERJ170/190s we get here at LHR and it got me thinking.

LGW we do not see any A340s, and LHR we do not get ERJ170/190s very often.

Any other big airports that do not get major aircraft types?

SIN is another one - they rarely if ever get the A300 and the ERJ190 is a rarity there as well.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:24 pm

What qualifies as big?

ZRH rarely gets a 747, 757 are also pretty rare. In contrast, we have A330, A340, and B767 galore, and even a daily A380  ...
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:34 pm

Good point. I dont think I've ever seen a 757 at SIN for example.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:17 pm

in DXB we don't see 757, 767, A300, A333, A342 that often.
THR i believe doesn't see any major air-crafts such as 747 or 380.
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:24 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):

THR does get a KLM MD-11

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Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:27 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
in DXB we don't see 757, 767, A300, A333, A342 that often.
THR i believe doesn't see any major air-crafts such as 747 or 380.

IR send the A300 dont they? And I've def seen a QR A333 there and an RJ A342 I'm sure.

Weird how few airports get the 757 considering how many thousand of them were built.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:33 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Thread starter):
LGW we do not see any A340s, and LHR we do not get ERJ170/190s very often.

what about the VS A340s in and out of LGW everyday...
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:33 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
in DXB we don't see 757, 767, A300, A333, A342 that often.

You get many daily A333 - Cathay, Egypt, Swiss & Qatar
Mahan send A300s and A310s. Iran sends A300s.
BA, TNT, Kenyan, Syrian, Austrian and Ethiopian B767s.
Royal Nepal and AZAL B752s.
Do you still get the occasional Turkmenistan B752?

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Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:34 pm

except for the PY and the rare TK AMS sees not much (read none) quad airbii.

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Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:49 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 5):
Weird how few airports get the 757 considering how many thousand of them were built.

Only in America now since they hoovered them up after 25 years! And at odd places like Glasgow and elsewhere like they say in America - small towns.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:46 pm

MEM is a hub of sorts for Delta/Delta Connection and it's got nothing bigger than a 767. (I do not count FedEx ops)
The predominant type here is CRJ2/7/9 and ERJ 145/175. A B738 or A320 here is considered a "big" aircraft.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:01 pm

Quoting bluewhale18210 (Reply 10):
MEM is a hub of sorts for Delta/Delta Connection and it's got nothing bigger than a 767. (I do not count FedEx ops)
The predominant type here is CRJ2/7/9 and ERJ 145/175. A B738 or A320 here is considered a "big" aircraft.

This is similiar to MKE. I recall reading a NW press release years ago touting their commitment to the city; it said they fly the 753 into the airport, which is biggest scheduled aircraft there.

I'm not sure if DL still schedules the 753 to MKE.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:04 pm

With SK pulling out, I don't think SEA sees (pun) the A340 anymore, unless LH is sending one our way.
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:08 pm

In ARN we dont see the A340, even though SK flies them.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:15 pm

Quoting dangould2000 (Reply 6):
what about the VS A340s in and out of LGW everyday..

VS A340s are based at LHR, there was only few scheduled flights a few years ago with the A340 to Port Harcourt and the Virgin Nigeria flights to Lagos.

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
in DXB we don't see 757, 767, A300, A333, A342 that often

I thought that one of BA's flights to DXB was a 767?
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:20 pm

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 14):
I thought that one of BA's flights to DXB was a 767?

Correct. BA105/104 is operated by the 767.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:20 pm

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 9):
Only in America now since they hoovered them up after 25 years! And at odd places like Glasgow and elsewhere like they say in America - small towns.

Aren't there quite a few in Europe still operating with charter airlines/tour operators? And of course, Icelandair.
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:30 pm

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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:30 pm

Quoting delimit (Reply 16):
Aren't there quite a few in Europe still operating with charter airlines/tour operators?

True but you'll only see them at their base and their typical destinations (Canaries, Crete, Palma, Barcelona). The 757 is also quite rare at most airports in Asia and especially Australia/Pacific, mainly some Chinese and CIS airlines have them.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:36 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 2):
Good point. I dont think I've ever seen a 757 at SIN for example.

Can't speak for the current situation but have seen Brunei, Nepal, various Chinese carriers, Cebu Pacific a few years ago, and of course SQ had a few. Years ago. There used to be loads of A300s at SIN from the late '70s. Last one I saw there was Indian.

Quoting dangould2000 (Reply 6):
what about the VS A340s in and out of LGW everyday...

Maybe the last couple of days due to LHR fog, but thats about all.

Sort of on the topic, I lived at Greensboro NC in the early '90s and the only commuter sized airliners I remember were Air Wisconsin FH227s. Otherwise it was all 737s, 727s, Fokkers DC-9s and MD-80s. I was there a year ago and didn't see anything bigger than 4 seats abreast! I'm not saying they don't get any "mainliners" at all, but what a contrast. (Yes I know they do pretty well with freighters).

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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:40 pm

Quoting musang (Reply 19):
I was there a year ago and didn't see anything bigger than 4 seats abreast! I'm not saying they don't get any "mainliners" at all, but what a contrast. (Yes I know they do pretty well with freighters).

That's probably the case with many airports in the US nowadays. Industry consolidation and the rise of the RJ has really changed the map here.
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:43 pm

Are there any 757's found in Australia? I think Air Niugini operates literally the only one that can be found on the entire continent (excluding military and occasional freighters).
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:45 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Thread starter):
LGW we do not see any A340s

I was about to say Air Namibia, but they seem to have cut the London route. When did that happen?  
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:46 pm

DCA gets no wide bodies, although they can receive aircraft as large as the 767. Im quite certain this is one of busiest airports in the world with no 767/747/777/330/380's.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:08 pm

GRU, CGH and GIG incredibly don't get any E-jets... And all the next 20 or so largest airports in Brazil do.
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:12 pm

I don't know if you consider BRU as being big, but we don't get scheduled A340 or B747. The 777 has been a while now, but will come back with United.

We are like A330-heaven though (9W, SN, EY, HU and soon also AC and QR) and get a fair number of 767 (CO, UA, AA, DL, JAF, ET,...)
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:19 pm

Quoting max999 (Reply 11):
I'm not sure if DL still schedules the 753 to MKE.

I saw one when I was there in summer of 2009. It came from MSP and was heading back there and on to Fairbanks or Anchorage I think.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:25 pm

757s? Anyone want 757's? We've got plenty here at SAN. I'll trade you six 757's for just one quad. Any quad would be nice. Thank you and have a great day.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:27 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
THR i believe doesn't see any major air-crafts such as 747 or 380.

A380 no, B747 a lot! Iran Air, Mahan Air, Saudi Arabian, Saudi Cargo, Cargolux...

Quoting B747forever (Reply 13):
In ARN we dont see the A340, even though SK flies them.

I thought SK has 1 A333 and 1 A343 based at ARN?

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 22):
I was about to say Air Namibia, but they seem to have cut the London route. When did that happen?

Somewhere in mid-2009.

Quoting Conti764 (Reply 25):
I don't know if you consider BRU as being big, but we don't get scheduled A340 or B747

However, several 747 freighters can be seen at BRU.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:34 pm

ATH rarely gets any A340 we do get some 330s though, emirates and delta
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:36 pm

I think BOM too misses out on A340. EK rarely sends the A345 nowadays.
We dont the A380, either. ET sends the 757 sometimes.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:41 pm

Quoting jayeshrulz (Reply 30):
I think BOM too misses out on A340.

SA and TK.  
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:44 pm

I would assume that MIA sees very few MD-80s. AA doesn't operate the MD-80 out of its hub there. That would as potential operators DL and Latin American/Caribbean carriers.
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:49 pm

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 28):
I thought SK has 1 A333 and 1 A343 based at ARN?



No, not anymore.


If I am not mistaken MUC doesnt have any A380 operator nor any 747 operator.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:53 pm

MCI, three terminals, 90 gates and almost no wide body traffic. There's the occasional sports charter and the FedEx MD-11s, but that's about it. Wide body traffic was an every day thing in the 70s, lots of DC-10s and L1011s and even the occasional TWA 747, but no more.  
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:56 pm

Does ATL get 77Ws? I'm not sure I've ever seen any of them here. . .
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:57 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 33):
No, not anymore.

What's the current SK longhaul fleet based at ARN?
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:59 pm

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 36):
What's the current SK longhaul fleet based at ARN?



The only long haul destinations served from ARN are EWR and ORD by the A333
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:09 pm

Long Beach (LGB) has had no regular passenger 737 service since Alaska Airlines withdrew from the market.

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Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:13 pm

While I know it's not a big aircraft, turboprops like the Dash 8 are all over the place...but you won't find them at JFK for regularly scheduled service anymore IIRC.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:16 pm

PHL doesn't see 747's very often any more. They used to get regular BA and UPS 747's, however now it is only the occasional 747 frieghter or 744 diversion/charter
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:20 pm

Outside of JFK diversions and an occasional sports charter now and then (by NW then later DL), PHL hasn't seen any passenger 747s for years; BA and LH used to fly them on scheduled service years ago.

Back when Swiss Air use to fly out of PHL (w/743s) well over a decade ago; it was a daily ritual for spotters and spectators alike to head out to Island Ave. (pre-Runway 8-26) and see one come in for a landing at 5 PM.

I don't believe that PHL has ever seen any 777-300s, 767-400s (outside of, maybe, a sports charter) nor A380s fly in.

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 40):
PHL doesn't see 747's very often any more. They used to get regular BA and UPS 747's, however now it is only the occasional 747 frieghter or 744 diversion/charter

You must've posted your reply while I was still writing mine. Big grin
Nonetheless, with the Christmas season right around the corner, PHL is more likely to see some cargo 747s (either UPS or Evergreen) next month.

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Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:22 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Thread starter):
I was thinking earlier about how few ERJ170/190s we get here at LHR

It seems like a waste of slots to send any ERJs to LHR. I do not think there are any scheduled at NRT. Is somebody squatting on slots with them?
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:34 pm

With SK pulling out, I don't think SEA sees (pun) the A340 anymore, unless LH is sending one our way.

Occasionally there are AF or LH A340 subs. I've seen both LH and AF A340s at SEA in the last two months (even have a shot of one in the DB). AF usually uses an A332 and LH an A333 on these routes. Neither is a common sub but I've seen them both several times.

Since Eva switched to 77W's and BA switched to the 772 for the winter, SEA is no longer seeing any scheduled 744 pax service, but has seen an increase of 744F's, mainly from CI cargo and KE cargo. BA's 744 will return after the winter months, I think. Very occasionally there's a DL 744, probably for positioning or charter as DL's long range routes from SEA are all A333.

Types you won't see at all at SEA unless there are very special circumstances: A310, A346, 727, 717, DC9, MD90 (once in a blue moon), ERJ (you might see occasional bizjet versions), and no surprise here: A380. And you'll only catch one regularly scheduled A300 in this area per day.
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:35 pm

I've seen almost every type at MAN, even a 764, that I would call a modern airliner except an A340. Does VS still use them on flights to the carribean or are they all 747's/
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:36 pm

Quoting dangould2000 (Reply 6):
what about the VS A340s in and out of LGW everyday...

They are only in on occasion for maintainance.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:46 pm

BHX does not get 747,767, 753 A318, 73G/9 A330, A340,MD11 and many more i bet
 
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Quoting CargoLex (Reply 43):


Types you won't see at all at SEA unless there are very special circumstances: A310, A346, 727, 717, DC9, MD90 (once in a blue moon), ERJ (you might see occasional bizjet versions), and no surprise here: A380. And you'll only catch one regularly scheduled A300 in this area per day.

I don't think SEA really ever sees 50 seat regional jets which is extraordinarily unique for an airport in the US. I think DL from SLC is about it. UA has occasional CR7s and QX has regular CR7s, but SEA has stayed mostly RJ free.
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:11 pm

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 34):
MCI, three terminals, 90 gates and almost no wide body traffic.

But how many of the 90 gates are actually in use? 50-60 tops? I feel bad for MCI (its my second home airport) and how it is just another spoke for most of the airlines there. Its in such a prime location to be a huge hub, but of course every airline that has tried it has failed. I am very curious to see if the new terminal project ever gets off the ground, my bet is it may happen, 50 years from now  

Although it is nice to see WN growing, Frontier / Republic has a decent presence even after YX being gutted, and it seems there are more mainline a/c being flown to MCI (US, UA, AA come to mind as those who have been bringing less RJ's it seems these days)
 
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:13 pm

What about one of this forums favorite airports, Cleveland Hopkins? After years of delay and planning, the folks at CLE finally extended their longest runway out to a less embarrassing 9,955 feet- with a 9,000 foot parallel. For their Hurculean expansion efforts the only wide-body service they now receive is a FedEx A-300. Meanwhile Clevelanders are desperately afraid United's Jeff ("God does not come from on high and grant you hub status") Smisek is plotting even more hideous ways to make Cleveland Hopkins a downsized regional airline hell.

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