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Qantas A330 To JFK

Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:53 am

I have inlaws who are flying in from SYD to JFK. QF 107 used to be a flight from SYD to LAX and then onto JFK. However, I noticed on their itenerary that they have to go from the international terminal to terminal B(?) and get an A330 to JFK. Their return is also on an A330.
I can assume that the reason is for the fuel savings, but when did QF make this change? Are they now basing two A330s at LAX?
 
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RE: Qantas A330 To JFK

Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:18 pm

Quoting 787ewr (Thread starter):
I can assume that the reason is for the fuel savings, but when did QF make this change? Are they now basing two A330s at LAX?

Last year, Sept I think, but not sure. The A332 comes out of SYD and goes SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL-SYD, HOWEVER flights QF 107/108 still go SYD-LAX-JFK-LAX-SYD, there is an aircraft change at LAX B744 to A332 to B744.

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RE: Qantas A330 To JFK

Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:23 pm

Quoting gemuser (Reply 1):
The A332 comes out of SYD and goes SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL-SYD

Is AKL just a fuelstop, or does QF have traffic rights AKL-LAX? Guess NZ isn't to happy about that?
 
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RE: Qantas A330 To JFK

Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:25 pm

Quoting kl911 (Reply 2):
Is AKL just a fuelstop, or does QF have traffic rights AKL-LAX? Guess NZ isn't to happy about that?

QF has rights to pick up in NZ and return to NZ (as does NZ in Australia to the USA but currently does via NZ only and no longer direct)
 
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RE: Qantas A330 To JFK

Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:34 pm

QF25/26 are MEL-AKL-LAX-AKL-MEL
between MEL-AKL-MEL it's a 738, between AKL-LAX-AKL it's a 332.

as per gemuser's post - the 332 flies under 6 different flight numbers on that route.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 To JFK

Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:46 pm

Not to mention a terminal change from T4 to TBIT at LAX... Hella confusing when transiting at LAX...
 
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RE: Qantas A330 To JFK

Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:43 pm

Quoting kl911 (Reply 2):
Quoting gemuser (Reply 1):
The A332 comes out of SYD and goes SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL-SYD

Is AKL just a fuelstop, or does QF have traffic rights AKL-LAX? Guess NZ isn't to happy about that?

NZ also operated SYD-LAX nonstop for a while. That route was dropped when Ansett went bankrupt as NZ then lost their feed traffic to/from other points in Australia. As far as I know, the very liberal Australia-New Zealand bilateral gives airlines from either country unrestricted 5th freedom rights from the other country.
 
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RE: Qantas A330 To JFK

Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:23 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
As far as I know, the very liberal Australia-New Zealand bilateral gives airlines from either country unrestricted 5th freedom rights from the other country.

It's so liberal it isn't called an Air service Agreement, it called the "Single Aviation Market". Anything an Australian carrier can do in Australia so can a NZ carrier and vice versa. The one restriction is for international services from Australia the NZ carrier must have NZ traffic rights on the route from the third country involved, they can't use Australian traffic rights and vice versa for Australian carriers from NZ..

It's been a long time coming, over 10 years, but AFAIK its all in place now.

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RE: Qantas A330 To JFK

Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:27 pm

Quoting 787ewr (Thread starter):
I can assume that the reason is for the fuel savings, but when did QF make this change? Are they now basing two A330s at LAX?

They made this change a last year. I think as well as fuel savings, they can fill the A330 more to capacity as there are less seats as well as only economy/business instead of economy/premium economy/business/first as they have on 747.

Quoting tayser (Reply 4):
QF25/26 are MEL-AKL-LAX-AKL-MEL
between MEL-AKL-MEL it's a 738, between AKL-LAX-AKL it's a 332.

Funnily enough, if you travel AKL/LAX/JFK, you stay on the same plane but the flight number changes from QF25 to QF107. The connection on QF26 from LAX to MEL is supposedly a transit but as mentioned above, the plane changes from A330 to 737. There is also a 4 hour and 45 minute wait in AKL. Definitely a dupe as a single flight number!

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