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World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:46 pm

The original thread has morphed into more than the longest 20, so in an acceptance of this fact and in celebration of the great news from QF (2 flights new to the top 20 in one announcement!), I am presenting a new thread:
World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Thanks to all in the World’s Longest 20 thread for your help in compiling these routes.
Any further help with routes/aircraft, etc would be greatly appreciated! -yeo


The following are currently scheduled (or proposed with start dates) and calculated in
nautical miles by the Great Circle Mapper http://gc.kls2.com/ . To be included in the ranked listing they must be shown to be flying passengers nonstop in the current OAG Worldwide.

1 SINº-EWRº 8285nm SQˇ 345
2 SIN-LAXº 7621nm SQ 345
(SYD-DFW ‡ 7454nm QF 744 scheduled 16 May ’11)
3 ATLº-JNBº 7334nm SA)">DLˇ 77L
4 DXBº-LAX 7246nm EK ˇ 77W+77L
(DFW-BNE ‡‡ 7215nm QF 774 scheduled 16 May ’11)
5 BKKº-LAX 7186nm TGˇ 345
6 DXB-IAHº 7097nm EK 77L
7 DXB-SFOº 7041nm EK 77W
8 HKGº-JFKº 7014nm CX ˇ 77W
9 EWR-HKG 7009nm SA)">COˇ 77E
10 DOHº-IAH 6993nm QRˇ 77L
11 JFK-JNB† 6925nm SAˇ 343
12 MELº-LAX 6883nm QF ˇ/VAˇ 744*/77W
13 DTWº-HKG 6828nm SA)">DL 77L
14 YYZ º-HKG 6787nm ACˇ/CX 77L/77W
15 BOMº-EWR 6784nm AIˇ/CO 77L/77E
16 TPEº-EWR†† 6777nm BRˇ 77W
17 ORDº-HKG** 6772nm UAˇ 744
18 YVRº-SYDº 6741nm AC 77L
(ATL-PVG 6656nm SA)">DL 77E scheduled 5 June ’11)
19 ATL-DXB 6604nm SA)">DL 77L
20 DXB-GRUº 6597nm EK 77W
21 TLVº-LAX 6581nm LY ˇ 772
22 TPE-YYZ 6534nm BR 77W
23 AUHº-SYD 6510nm EY ˇ/VA^ 346/77W
24 LAX-SYD 6507nm SA)">DL/QF/UA/VA 77L/744^^/744/77W
25 ORD-DELº 6503nm AAˇ/AI 777/77W
26 DXB-SYD 6500nm EK 388
(BNE-AUH 6485nm VA 77W scheduled “by Feb ’12”)
27 DXB-BNEº 6467nm EK 77W
28 DOH-MEL 6454nm QR 77L
29 SYD-SFO 6445nm QF^^^/UA 744
(IAH-AKL 6444nm SA)">CO 787 proposed Nov ’11, delayed to ’12)
30 PVGº-JFK 6424nm MUˇ 346
31 EWR-PVG 6416nm SA)">CO 77E
32 DOH-GRU 6400nm QR 77L
33 SYD-EZEº 6366nm QF 744
34 EWR-DEL 6364nm SA)">CO 77E
35 DEL-JFK 6359nm AI 77W
36 MNLº-LAX§ 6348nm PR 343+744
37 AUH-ORD 6322nm EY 346
38 KHIº-YYZ 6313nm PK ˇ 777
39 HKG-LAX 6309nm CX 773
40 DEL-YYZ 6297nm AI 77L
41 CDGº-SCLº 6291nm AF ˇ 777
42 AUH-MEL 6287nm EY 345
43 CANº-LAX 6284nm CZ ˇ 772
44 DXB-MEL 6283nm EK 77W
45 DMEº-GIGº 6224nm UN ˇ 744
46 BNE-LAX 6223nm QF/VA 744/77W
47 ICNº-ATL 6215nm KE ˇ 744+772
48 DTW-PVG 6201nm SA)">DL 777
49 FRAº-EZE 6197nm LH ˇ 744
50 YYZ-PVG 6176nm AC 77W
51 IADº-DXB 6142nm UA 777
52 JFK-LHEº ◊ 6141nm PK 777
53 ORD-PVG 6132nm AA/UA 777/77E
54 AKLº-YVR 6121nm NZ ˇ 744
55 NRTº-MEXº ◊◊ 6086nm AM ˇ 763
56 LHE-YYZ 6085nm PK 777
57 MNL-SFO§§ 6071nm PR 744
58 ICN-IAD 6046nm KE 772
59 HKG-SFO 6019nm CX/SQ/UA 744+773/77W/744
60 DOH-IAD 6018nm QR 77W
61 AUH-YYZ 6017nm EY 77W
(IAD-PEK 6014nm UA 77E resumes Mar 27 ’11)
62 EZE-FCOº 6013nm ARˇ/AZ ˇ 340/77E
63 ICN-JFK 6001nm KE/OZ ˇ 77W+744/777

^ VA operates from Feb ’11
^^ QF operates 388 from 16 Jan ’11
^^^ QF discontinued from 14 May ’11

SA operates nonstop southbound only. Northbound: JNB-DKR-JFK
†† BR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: EWR-ANC-TPE

* QF operates 388 northbound only from 16 Jan ’11
** CX scheduled to operate also from 1 Sep ’11

QF will operate northbound only
‡‡ QF will operate southbound only

PK operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: LHE-MAN-JFK
◊◊ AM operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: MEX-TIJ-NRT

§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: LAX-GUM-MNL
§§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: SFO-GUM-MNL

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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:37 am

Some of these flights like SIN-EWR amaze me that anyone could sit in a coach seat for that long, even q business seat would have to get old after that long
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:13 pm

First of all how about FRA-SIN which I will take in 10 days? 6391 according to the mapper.

Quoting dl767captain (Reply 1):
Some of these flights like SIN-EWR amaze me that anyone could sit in a coach seat for that long, even q business seat would have to get old after that long

Actually, to my understanding the only EWR-SIN flight is business only. Even so, and given cost, I am going through Europe. There used to be nonstop EWR-BKK but those don't seem to run anymore. I wonder if the reason has something to do with what you say -- 18 hours plus ground time is a lot.
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:05 pm

Here is another for the list:

IAD-ADD 6251nm ET (eastbound only, westbound is ADD-FCO-IAD) 777-200LR
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:29 pm

Quoting workwings (Reply 2):
First of all how about FRA-SIN... 6391 according to the mapper.

FRA-SIN is less than 6000 nautical miles. On the Great Circle Mapper change the "path distance" menu from "miles" to "nautical miles" ...but have a great flight! Give my regards to both FRA and SIN; both great airports.

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 3):
Here is another for the list: IAD-ADD...

      COOL FLIGHT! thanks!
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:01 pm

Don’t very often get an active flight to add anymore (see the new #45). I think this calls for a new edition! -yeo


The following are currently scheduled (or proposed with start dates) and calculated in
nautical miles by the Great Circle Mapper http://gc.kls2.com/ . To be included in the ranked listing they must be shown to be flying passengers nonstop in the current OAG Worldwide.

1 SINº-EWRº 8285nm SQˇ 345
2 SIN-LAXº 7621nm SQ 345
(SYD-DFW ‡ 7454nm QF 744 scheduled 16 May ’11)
3 ATLº-JNBº 7334nm SA)">DLˇ 77L
4 DXBº-LAX 7246nm EK ˇ 77W+77L
(DFW-BNE ‡‡ 7215nm QF 774 scheduled 16 May ’11)
5 BKKº-LAX 7186nm TGˇ 345
6 DXB-IAHº 7097nm EK 77L
7 DXB-SFOº 7041nm EK 77W
8 HKGº-JFKº 7014nm CX ˇ 77W
9 EWR-HKG 7009nm SA)">COˇ 77E
10 DOHº-IAH 6993nm QRˇ 77L
11 JFK-JNB† 6925nm SAˇ 343
12 MELº-LAX 6883nm QF ˇ/VAˇ 744*/77W
13 DTWº-HKG 6828nm SA)">DL 77L
14 YYZ º-HKG 6787nm ACˇ/CX 77L/77W
15 BOMº-EWR 6784nm AIˇ/CO 77L/77E
16 TPEº-EWR†† 6777nm BRˇ 77W
17 ORDº-HKG** 6772nm UAˇ 744
18 YVRº-SYDº 6741nm AC 77L
(ATL-PVG 6656nm SA)">DL 77E scheduled 5 June ’11)
19 ATL-DXB 6604nm SA)">DL 77L
20 DXB-GRUº 6597nm EK 77W
21 TLVº-LAX 6581nm LY ˇ 772
22 TPE-YYZ 6534nm BR 77W
23 AUHº-SYD 6510nm EY ˇ/VA^ 346/77W
24 LAX-SYD 6507nm SA)">DL/QF/UA/VA 77L/744^^/744/77W
25 ORD-DELº 6503nm AAˇ/AI 777/77W
26 DXB-SYD 6500nm EK 388
(BNE-AUH 6485nm VA 77W scheduled “by Feb ’12”)
27 DXB-BNEº 6467nm EK 77W
28 DOH-MEL 6454nm QR 77L
29 SYD-SFO 6445nm QF^^^/UA 744
(IAH-AKL 6444nm SA)">CO 787 proposed Nov ’11, delayed to ’12)
30 PVGº-JFK 6424nm MUˇ 346
31 EWR-PVG 6416nm SA)">CO 77E
32 DOH-GRU 6400nm QR 77L
33 SYD-EZEº 6366nm QF 744
34 EWR-DEL 6364nm SA)">CO 77E
35 DEL-JFK 6359nm AI 77W
36 MNLº-LAX§ 6348nm PR 343+744
37 AUH-ORD 6322nm EY 346
38 KHIº-YYZ 6313nm PK ˇ 777
39 HKG-LAX 6309nm CX 773
40 DEL-YYZ 6297nm AI 77L
41 CDGº-SCLº 6291nm AF ˇ 777
42 AUH-MEL 6287nm EY 345
43 CANº-LAX 6284nm CZ ˇ 772
44 DXB-MEL 6283nm EK 77W
45 IADº-ADDº ††† 6251nm ET ˇ 77E
46 DMEº-GIGº 6224nm UN ˇ 744
47 BNE-LAX 6223nm QF/VA 744/77W
48 ICNº-ATL 6215nm KE ˇ 744+772***
49 DTW-PVG 6201nm SA)">DL 777
50 FRAº-EZE 6197nm LH ˇ 744
51 YYZ-PVG 6176nm AC 77W
52 IAD-DXB 6142nm UA 777
53 JFK-LHEº ◊ 6141nm PK 777
54 ORD-PVG 6132nm AA/UA 777/77E
55 AKLº-YVR 6121nm NZ ˇ 744
56 NRTº-MEXº ◊◊ 6086nm AM ˇ 763
57 LHE-YYZ 6085nm PK 777
58 MNL-SFO§§ 6071nm PR 744
59 ICN-IAD 6046nm KE 772
60 HKG-SFO 6019nm CX/SQ/UA 744+773/77W/744
61 DOH-IAD 6018nm QR 77W
62 AUH-YYZ 6017nm EY 77W
(IAD-PEK 6014nm UA 77E resumes Mar 27 ’11)
63 EZE-FCOº 6013nm ARˇ/AZ ˇ 340/77E
66 ICN-JFK 6001nm KE/OZ ˇ 77W+744****/777

^ VA operates from Feb ’11
^^ QF operates 388 from 16 Jan ’11
^^^ QF discontinued from 14 May ’11

SA operates nonstop southbound only. Northbound: JNB-DKR-JFK
†† BR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: EWR-ANC-TPE
††† ET operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound ADD-FCO-IAD


* QF operates 388 northbound only from 16 Jan ’11
** CX scheduled to operate also from 1 Sep ’11
***KE 744 only from 3 Mar ’11
****KE from 30 Jun ’11 388 to gradually replace 744/77W. 388 daily by 1 Sep ’11.

QF will operate northbound only
‡‡ QF will operate southbound only

PK operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: LHE-MAN-JFK
◊◊ AM operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: MEX-TIJ-NRT

§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: LAX-GUM-MNL
§§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: SFO-GUM-MNL

ˇ longest flight for this carrier
º longest flight for this airport
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:25 am

Yeo, You probably have already seen this but it looks like we have another addition to the list:

JFK-KIX 6036nm CI (from April 29)

CI To Launch KIX-NYC (by centrair Jan 18 2011 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:06 am

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 6):
You probably have already seen this ...JFK-KIX 6036nm CI (from April 29)

I did see that! Will appear next edition as:
(KIX-JFK 6036nm CI scheduled 29 April ’11)
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:43 pm

I have a Question, does anyone know for sure what kind of 747-400 will be used on the QF7 SYD-DFW and the QF8 DFW-BNE-SYD beginning May 16th, 2011 ? Some have said it would be 747-400, and others have said it would be one of Quantas's 747-400ERs. Some have posted reservation code data, but I am not able to ampletely decifer

[Edited 2011-01-24 11:45:19]
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:57 pm

Feb 2011 updates:
No routes added or eliminated but a number of equipment changes (see italics).

As usual any help, especially with discovery of current or future routes with start dates; a/c refinements, etc, are appreciated.

The following are currently scheduled (or proposed with start dates) and calculated in
nautical miles by the Great Circle Mapper http://gc.kls2.com/ . To be included in the ranked listing they must be shown to be flying passengers nonstop in the current OAG Worldwide.

1 SINº-EWRº 8285nm SQˇ 345
2 SIN-LAXº 7621nm SQ 345
(SYD-DFW ‡ 7454nm QF 744 scheduled 16 May)
3 ATLº-JNBº 7334nm SA)">DLˇ 77L
4 DXBº-LAX 7246nm EK ˇ 77W+77L
(DFW-BNE ‡‡ 7215nm QF 774 scheduled 16 May)
5 BKKº-LAX 7186nm TGˇ 345
6 DXB-IAHº 7097nm EK 77L
7 DXB-SFOº 7041nm EK 77W
8 HKGº-JFKº 7014nm CX ˇ 77W
9 EWR-HKG 7009nm SA)">COˇ 77E
10 DOHº-IAH 6993nm QRˇ 77L
11 JFK-JNB† 6925nm SAˇ 343
12 MELº-LAX 6883nm QF ˇ/VAˇ 744^^^/77W
13 DTWº-HKG 6828nm SA)">DL 77L
14 HKG 6787nm ACˇ/CX 77L/77W
15 BOMº-EWR 6784nm AIˇ/CO 77L/77E
16 TPEº-EWR†† 6777nm BRˇ 77W
17 ORDº-HKG* 6772nm UAˇ 744
18 YVRº-SYDº 6741nm AC 77L
(ATL-PVG 6656nm SA)">DL 77E scheduled 5June)
19 ATL-DXB 6604nm SA)">DL 77L
20 DXB-GRUº 6597nm EK 77W
21 TLVº-LAX 6581nm LY ˇ 772
22 TPE-BR 77W
23 AUHº-SYD 6510nm EY ˇ/VA^ 346/77W
24 LAX-SYD 6507nm SA)">DL/QF/UA/VA 77L/388 +744 /744/77W
25 ORD-DELº 6503nm AAˇ/AI 777/77W
26 DXB-SYD 6500nm EK 388
(BNE-AUH 6485nm VA 77W scheduled “by Feb ’12”)
27 DXB-BNEº 6467nm EK 77W
28 DOH-MEL 6454nm QR 77L
29 SYD-SFO 6445nm QF^^/UA 744
(IAH-AKL 6444nm SA)">CO 787 proposed Nov ’11, delayed to ’12)
30 PVGº-JFK 6424nm MUˇ 346
31 EWR-PVG 6416nm SA)">CO 77E
32 DOH-GRU 6400nm QR 77L
33 SYD-EZEº 6366nm QF 744
34 EWR-DEL 6364nm SA)">CO 77E
35 DEL-JFK 6359nm AI 77W
36 MNLº-LAX§ 6348nm PR 343+744
37 AUH-ORD 6322nm EY 346
38 KHIº-PK ˇ 777
39 HKG-LAX 6309nm CX 773
40 DEL-AI 77L****
41 CDGº-SCLº 6291nm AF ˇ 777
42 AUH-MEL 6287nm EY 345
43 CANº-LAX 6284nm CZ ˇ 772
44 DXB-MEL 6283nm EK 77W
45 IADº-ADDº ††† 6251nm ET ˇ 77E
46 DMEº-GIGº 6224nm UN ˇ 744
47 BNE-LAX 6223nm QF/VA 744/77W
48 ICNº-ATL 6215nm KE ˇ 744+772**
49 DTW-PVG 6201nm SA)">DL 777
50 FRAº-EZE 6197nm LH ˇ 744
51 PVG 6176nm AC 77W (or 77L from 2Mar)
52 IAD-DXB 6142nm UA 777
53 JFK-LHEº ◊ 6141nm PK 777
54 ORD-PVG 6132nm AA/UA 777/77E
55 AKLº-YVR 6121nm NZ ˇ 744 (or 772 from 2Mar)
56 NRTº-MEXº ◊◊ 6086nm AM ˇ 763
57 LHE-PK 777
58 MNL-SFO§§ 6071nm PR 744
59 ICN-IAD 6046nm KE 772
(KIX-JFK 6036nm CI scheduled 29April)
60 HKG-SFO 6019nm CX/SQ/UA 744 only;formerly 744+773 /77W/744
61 DOH-IAD 6018nm QR 77W
62 AUH-EY 77W
(IAD-PEK 6014nm UA 77E resumes 27Mar)
63 EZE-FCOº 6013nm ARˇ/AZ ˇ 340/77E
64 ICN-JFK 6001nm KE/OZ ˇ 77W+744***/777

^ VA operates from 24Feb
^^ QF discontinued from 14May
^^^ QF operates 388 from 15Mar on some days

SA operates nonstop southbound only. Northbound: JNB-DKR-JFK. Begins nonstop both directions with 346 on 1May.
†† BR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: EWR-ANC-TPE
††† ET operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound ADD-FCO-IAD


* CX scheduled to operate also from 1Sep
**KE 744 only from 3Mar
***KE from 30Jun 388 to gradually replace 744/77W. 388 daily by 1Sep
**** AI to operate 77W from 27Mar

QF will operate northbound only
‡‡ QF will operate southbound only

PK operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: LHE-MAN-JFK
◊◊ AM operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: MEX-TIJ-NRT

§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: LAX-GUM-MNL
§§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: SFO-GUM-MNL

ˇ longest flight for this carrier
º longest flight for this airport

[Edited 2011-02-05 11:10:55]
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:32 pm

A number of corrections to the above:
Weirdly, all YYZ routes were corrupted after an edit to remove one asterisk!   
Corrections:

#14 YYZ º-HKG 6787nm ACˇ/CX 77L/77W
#22 TPE-YYZ 6534nm BR 77W
#38 KHIº-YYZ 6313nm PK ˇ 777
#40 DEL-YYZ 6297nm AI 77L****
#51 YYZ-PVG 6176nm AC 77W (or 77L from 2Mar)
#57 LHE-YYZ 6085nm PK 777
#62 AUH-YYZ 6017nm EY 77W

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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:55 am

what about TLV-GRU? I don't know the route, but they must avoid some Arab countries.
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:26 am

Quoting RodRB (Reply 11):
what about TLV-GRU? I don't know the route, but they must avoid some Arab countries.

Are there any African countries that El Al is not permitted to fly over? I am not aware of any ...but more to the point, it's not practical for me to take into account each flight's actual routing; where would this end?

Sorry, I'll stick to the ideal routing as shown on the Great Circle Mapper. TLV-GRU is 5723nm.

yeo
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:02 am

One thiing - how you find out - how long the fliights take in hours and mins??

thank you


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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:18 am

Quoting yeogeo (Reply 12):
Are there any African countries that El Al is not permitted to fly over? I am not aware of any ...but more to the point, it's not practical for me to take into account each flight's actual routing; where would this end?

Sorry, I'll stick to the ideal routing as shown on the Great Circle Mapper. TLV-GRU is 5723nm.

yeo

AFAIK they wouldn't be permitted to fly over Libya, Sudan and Algeria which would mean they would probably fly over the Mediterranean, over Spain and Portugal and south over the Atlantic.

This is pure conjecture on my part since I have never personally flown this route but I imagine it would greatly increase the mileage. El Al's website has the flight duration clocked in at 15 hrs and 35 mins on the westbound route but I would assume that includes time spent on the ground gate-to-gate. Perhaps someone who has actually flown on this route can further enlighten us?

For comparison's sake, TLV to LAX (G-T-G) westbound is also clocked at 15hrs 35mins so I think in terms of actual distance flown it would be similair.
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:57 pm

According to Reply 38 from this thread LY009; 1st TLV-GRU Flight Enroute Now! (by El Al 001 May 2 2009 in Civil Aviation)

the route is 6434Nm long.
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:19 pm

Quoting wheelie67 (Reply 13):
One thiing - how you find out - how long the fliights take in hours and mins??
Quoting RonE (Reply 14):
TLV to LAX (G-T-G) westbound is also clocked at 15hrs 35mins so I think in terms of actual distance flown it would be similair.

This thread deals in routes in nautical miles, not hours and minutes. You folks are welcome to make your own thread about the longest timed flights (good luck!), but time flown is irrelevant in this discussion.

Quoting RodRB (Reply 15):
According to Reply 38 from this thread LY009; 1st TLV-GRU Flight Enroute Now! (by El Al 001 May 2 2009 in Civil Aviation) the route is 6434Nm long.

An unsourced reply which has the aircraft flying via Valencia and Algiers, if I read it right. I don't buy it.

The only way I would include this flight in the greater than 6000nm list is if it could be shown that the flight regularly flies the route roughly TLV-TNG-GRU. I have yet to see any evidence of this flight being over 6000nm.

According to the great circle mapper:
TLV-GRU = 5733nm
TLV-GRU via AEH (Abecher, Chad, a routing which skirts Libya ) = 5872nm
TLV-GRU via TNG (Tangier, Morocco) = 6257nm


According to flightaware:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/E.../history/20110205/1905ZZ/LLBG/SBGR
TLV-GRU direct = 5733nm
TLV-GRU as flown today = 5744nm

According to El Al website:
TLV-GRU = 5737nm

I am willing to consider including a flight which is shown to be flown on a regular basis more than 6000nm
-after all, I'm clearly not adverse to footnotes  
but so far I haven't seen the evidence in this case.

yeo
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:02 am

According to this thread KLM will start flights to EZE. It distance is 6176nm which makes it into the list.

KLM Back To EZE, It's Official! (by klmcedric Feb 15 2011 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:31 pm

Quoting yeogeo (Thread starter):

5 BKKº-LAX 7186nm TGˇ 345
6 DXB-IAHº 7097nm EK 77L
10 DOHº-IAH 6993nm QRˇ 77L
23 AUHº-SYD 6510nm EY ˇ/VA^ 346/77W
27 DXB-BNEº 6467nm EK 77W
44 DXB-MEL 6283nm EK 77W

Done.

Of those in terms of actual flight time - DOH-IAH was longest. Absolutely amazing flight.
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:20 pm

FX operates MEM-HKG on 77F which is 7115nm. MEM-CAN on the 77F is 7068nm.   
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:22 am

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 17):
According to this thread KLM will start flights to EZE.

Thanks for the heads-up, aflyingkiwi, I had missed this one as I've been on my back for a week with the flu.
KLM's flight will appear in the next edition.   

Quoting fxramper (Reply 19):
FX operates MEM-HKG on 77F which is 7115nm. MEM-CAN on the 77F is 7068nm.

To be included in the ranked listing they must be shown to be flying passengers nonstop in the current OAG Worldwide.

I am not anti-cargo; it's just that I want to verify, monthly, the existence of all 60-odd flights. The OAG does this and is at hand, but it does not include cargo flights, sorry!

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 18):
Quoting yeogeo (Thread starter):

5 BKKº-LAX 7186nm TGˇ 345
6 DXB-IAHº 7097nm EK 77L
10 DOHº-IAH 6993nm QRˇ 77L
23 AUHº-SYD 6510nm EY ˇ/VA^ 346/77W
27 DXB-BNEº 6467nm EK 77W
44 DXB-MEL 6283nm EK 77W

Done.

Pretty impressive, CHRIS!

Cheers!
yeo
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:25 pm

Does anyone have a prediction for the next 6000nm plus route to be announced? I will register my prediction as LHR-SCL (6280 nm) on BA or LA since it would link two strong One World hubs.

Also, here is a current geographical breakdown of the routes on the list:

North America - East Asia: 27
North America - Middle East /South Asia: 18
North America - Australia/New Zealand: 9
Middle East - Australia: 7
South America - Europe: 5
North America - Africa: 3
South America - Middle East: 2
South America - Australia: 1

Interestingly, there is no Europe-East Asia or Africa-East Asia on the list.

Which of the following would be a more likely future Europe-East Asia nonstop?:

AMS-CGK (6130 nm) since GA and KL both operate this route with one stop (DXB and KUL, respectively)
MAD-SIN (6150 nm) on SQ which currently serves BCN but not MAD

Likewises, which of the following would be a more likely future Africa-East Asia nonstop?:

LAD-PEK (6359 nm) since Hainan and TAAG both fly this route with one stop in DXB
JNB-PVG (6361 nm) or JNB-PEK (6316 nm) on SA or CA
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:44 pm

Quoting dl767captain (Reply 1):
Some of these flights like SIN-EWR amaze me that anyone could sit in a coach seat for that long, even q business seat would have to get old after that long

SQ's A345s used on SIN-EWR and SIN-LAX are configured in a 100 seat, all Business configuration (1-2-1 lie flat seats).


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If you ask me, it seems like an extremely comfortable way to spend 18.5 hours.

Quoting DIRECTFLT (Reply 8):
I have a Question, does anyone know for sure what kind of 747-400 will be used on the QF7 SYD-DFW and the QF8 DFW-BNE-SYD beginning May 16th, 2011 ? Some have said it would be 747-400, and others have said it would be one of Quantas's 747-400ERs. Some have posted reservation code data, but I am not able to ampletely decifer

Qantas (no U!!) will be using its 744ERs for the route.
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:26 pm

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 21):
Does anyone have a prediction for the next 6000nm plus route to be announced?

DXB-ORD 6297nm seems to me a likely one in the near future.
(speaking of which... I could have sworn I saw an EK tail and ORD T5 last night late).

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 21):
which of the following would be a more likely future Africa-East Asia nonstop?:
LAD-PEK ...JNB-PVG (6361 nm) or JNB-PEK (6316 nm) on SA or CA

I think a China-Central Africa nonstop is a shoe-in in the near to medium term from what I gather.
I'm not so convinced of China-JNB ties.

yeo
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:13 pm

March 2011 updates:

One route dropping out of the list in late March:
Transaero’s flight DME-GIG (6224nm) is being discontinued from 21Mar. Perhaps we will see it resume next winter... the only seasonal ULH flight on the list?

Other changes listed in OAG for March involve aircraft:
#12 MEL-LAX QF now operates 744+388.
#45 IAD-ADD now operates with 77L (previously 77E) and still operates eastbound via FCO (although I wouldn’t think it would have to; perhaps that will change in time).
#49 DTW-PVG will operate from 2Apr on some days 744 instead of only 777.
#51 YYZ-PVG will operate with 77L from 26Mar (previously slated to begin 2Mar).
#55 AKL-YVR now operates with 772 with 744 only on Friday (previously all 744).
#56 NRT-MEX, the only 767 in the list, is now shown operating with 763 OR 762 (previously all 763). ?!

The following are currently scheduled (or proposed with start dates) and calculated in
nautical miles by the Great Circle Mapper http://gc.kls2.com/ . To be included in the ranked listing they must be shown to be flying passengers nonstop in the current OAG Worldwide.

As usual, any help, especially with discovery of current or future routes with start dates; a/c refinements, etc, are appreciated.

1 SINº-EWRº 8285nm SQˇ 345
2 SIN-LAXº 7621nm SQ 345
(SYD-DFW ‡ 7454nm QF 744 scheduled 16May)
3 ATLº-JNBº 7334nm SA)">DLˇ 77L
4 DXBº-LAX 7246nm EK ˇ 77W+77L
(DFW-BNE ‡‡ 7215nm QF 744 scheduled 16May)
5 BKKº-LAX 7186nm TGˇ 345
6 DXB-IAHº 7097nm EK 77L
7 DXB-SFOº 7041nm EK 77W
8 HKGº-JFKº 7014nm CX ˇ 77W
9 EWR-HKG 7009nm SA)">COˇ 77E
10 DOHº-IAH 6993nm QRˇ 77L
11 JFK-JNB† 6925nm SAˇ 343
12 MELº-LAX 6883nm QF ˇ/VAˇ 744+388/77W
13 DTWº-HKG 6828nm SA)">DL 77L
14 YYZ º-HKG 6787nm ACˇ/CX 77L/77W
15 BOMº-EWR 6784nm AIˇ/CO 77L/77E
16 TPEº-EWR †† 6777nm BRˇ 77W
17 ORDº-HKG* 6772nm UAˇ 744
18 YVRº-SYDº 6741nm AC 77L
(ATL-PVG 6656nm SA)">DL 77E scheduled 5June)
19 ATL-DXB 6604nm SA)">DL 77L
20 DXB-GRUº 6597nm EK 77W
21 TLVº-LAX 6581nm LY ˇ 772
22 TPE-YYZ 6534nm BR 77W
23 AUHº-SYD 6510nm EY ˇ/VA 346/77W
24 LAX-SYD 6507nm SA)">DL/QF/UA/VA 77L/388+744/744/77W
25 ORD-DELº 6503nm AAˇ/AI 777/77W
26 DXB-SYD 6500nm EK 388
(BNE-AUH 6485nm VA 77W scheduled “by Feb 2012”)
27 DXB-BNEº 6467nm EK 77W
28 DOH-MEL 6454nm QR 77L
29 SYD-SFO 6445nm QF^/UA 744
(IAH-AKL 6444nm SA)">CO 787 proposed Nov ’11, delayed to ’12)
30 PVGº-JFK 6424nm MU ˇ 346
31 EWR-PVG 6416nm SA)">CO 77E
32 DOH-GRU 6400nm QR 77L
33 SYD-EZEº 6366nm QF 744
34 EWR-DEL 6364nm SA)">CO 77E
35 DEL-JFK 6359nm AI 77W
36 MNLº-LAX § 6348nm PR 343+744
37 AUH-ORD 6322nm EY 346 ****
38 KHIº-YYZ 6313nm PK ˇ 777
39 HKG-LAX 6309nm CX 773
40 DEL-YYZ 6297nm AI 77L***
41 CDGº-SCLº 6291nm AF ˇ 777
42 AUH-MEL 6287nm EY 345
43 CANº-LAX 6284nm CZ ˇ 772
44 DXB-MEL 6283nm EK 77W
45 IADº-ADDº ††† 6251nm ET ˇ 77L
46 DMEº-GIGº ^^ 6224nm UN ˇ 744
47 BNE-LAX 6223nm QF/VA 744/77W
48 ICNº-ATL 6215nm KE ˇ 744+772
49 DTW-PVG 6201nm SA)">DL 777 ^^^
50 FRAº-EZE 6197nm LH ˇ 744
51 YYZ-PVG 6176nm AC 77W (or 77L from 26Mar)
(AMS-EZE 6176nm KL 77E scheduled 31OCT)
52 IAD-DXB 6142nm UA 777
53 JFK-LHEº ◊ 6141nm PK 777
54 ORD-PVG 6132nm AA/UA 777/77E
55 AKLº-YVR 6121nm NZ ˇ 772 or 744
56 NRTº-MEXº ◊◊ 6086nm AM ˇ 763 or 762
57 LHE-YYZ 6085nm PK 777
58 MNL-SFO §§ 6071nm PR 744
59 ICN-IAD 6046nm KE 772
(KIX-JFK 6036nm CI scheduled 29April)
60 HKG-SFO 6019nm CX/SQ/UA 744/77W/744
61 DOH-IAD 6018nm QR 77W
62 AUH-YYZ 6017nm EY 77W
(IAD-PEK 6014nm UA 77E resumes 27Mar)
63 EZE-FCOº 6013nm ARˇ/AZ ˇ 340/77E
64 ICN-JFK 6001nm KE/OZ ˇ 77W+744**/777

^ QF discontinued from 14May
^^ UN discontinued from 22Mar
^^^ SA)">DL operates 744 on some days from 2Apr

SA operates nonstop southbound only. Northbound: JNB-DKR-JFK. Begins nonstop both directions with 346 on 1May.
†† BR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: EWR-ANC-TPE
††† ET operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound ADD-FCO-IAD


* CX scheduled to operate this route also from 1Sep
** KE from 30Jun 388 to gradually replace 744/77W. 388 daily by 1Sep
*** AI to operate 77W from 27Mar
**** EY to operate 77W from 1Aug

QF will operate northbound only
‡‡ QF will operate southbound only

PK operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: LHE-MAN-JFK
◊◊ AM operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: MEX-TIJ-NRT

§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: LAX-GUM-MNL
§§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: SFO-GUM-MNL

ˇ longest flight for this carrier
º longest flight for this airport
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:57 pm

I think the following ex-South America flights have not been mentioned:

IST-GRU on TK 773
EZE-AKL on AR A342
SCL-AKL on LA A343
SCL-MAD on LA A343
SCL-MAD on IB A346
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:17 pm

Quoting OP3000 (Reply 25):
I think the following ex-South America flights have not been mentioned:
IST-GRU on TK 773
EZE-AKL on AR A342
SCL-AKL on LA A343
SCL-MAD on LA A343
SCL-MAD on IB A346

These routes have not been mentioned because they're all less than 6000 nautical miles.
Try it yourself: go to http://gc.kls2.com/ enter "path distance" as nautical miles, enter all the above routes under "paths" (you can enter them all at once) and have a look at the results.

Keep looking; I'd be thrilled for you (or anyone) to find a new route for the list!

yeo
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:27 pm

Quoting yeogeo (Reply 26):
These routes have not been mentioned because they're all less than 6000 nautical miles.
Try it yourself: go to http://gc.kls2.com/ enter "path distance" as nautical miles, enter all the above routes under "paths" (you can enter them all at once) and have a look at the results.

Keep looking; I'd be thrilled for you (or anyone) to find a new route for the list!

Thanks for the correction. I overlooked the nautical miles distinction when using GC mapper.
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:42 pm

Quoting yeogeo (Thread starter):
sted Fri Jan 14 2011 11:46:19 your local time (1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2223 times:


You've got South America covered for now. The closest I found was BA's LHR-EZE @ 5,999 nm.  
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:57 pm

Quoting yeogeo (Reply 24):
§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: LAX-GUM-MNL
§§ PR operates nonstop eastbound only. Westbound: SFO-GUM-MNL

On the PR website, it appears that the westbound stop for LAX/SFO-MNL has been changed from GUM to HNL.

Quoting yeogeo (Reply 23):
Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 21):
Does anyone have a prediction for the next 6000nm plus route to be announced?

DXB-ORD 6297nm seems to me a likely one in the near future

Assuming that AA stays content with the EY ORD-AUH codeshare, is there any chance that UA would start ORD-DXB prior to EK starting ORD service? Or, is IAD-DXB sufficient for UA?

[Edited 2011-02-28 14:00:26]
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:11 am

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 29):
On the PR website, it appears that the westbound stop for LAX/SFO-MNL has been changed from GUM to HNL.

It appears that you are right! I can't even blame the OAG: PR103 is listed twice on their flight routing page: once as LAX-GUM-MNL and once as LAX-HNL-MNL. I just overlooked it. And PR's change makes sense to me!

It'll be corrected in the next edition - thanks.

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 29):
is there any chance that UA would start ORD-DXB prior to EK starting ORD service? Or, is IAD-DXB sufficient for UA?

Speaking as an ORD transit regular, ORD>IAD>XXX on good days is an efficient routing. (Personally, I've flown GRB>ORD>IAD>FCO).

Currently ORD to BAH/EZE/DKR/DOH/DXB/GVA/KWI/LOS/DME/FCO/VIE to name a few, could all be routed on UA or code shares through IAD, and I would be surprised to see any of these routes on UA from ORD in the near future (except maybe FCO and DME).

So, IMO and to the point, no, I don't expect ORD-DXB on UA  

yeo

[Edited 2011-02-28 17:19:21]
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:43 pm

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 29):
On the PR website, it appears that the westbound stop for LAX/SFO-MNL has been changed from GUM to HNL.

Until Oct. 2011. The alternate airport for GUM is Saipan and it is presently undergoing runway construction. Expect completion date is Oct. 2011.
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:54 pm

The one's I've done so far:


12 MELº-LAX 6883nm QF ˇ744 / 388 5 times

24 LAX-SYD 6507nm QF 744 / 388 1 time

29 SYD-SFO 6445nm QF 744 3 times

33 SYD-EZEº 6366nm QF 744 1 time
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:59 am

Quoting dl767captain (Reply 1):
There used to be nonstop EWR-BKK but those don't seem to run anymore.

There never was a EWR-BKK flight. The TG flight while it lasted was BKK-JFK-BKK.
 
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RE: World’s Longest Flights ≥6K

Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:19 pm

How about YVR-SYD on AC, 6741nm, 772.

EDIT: Completely missed seeing it on the list about 5 different times. My apologies!

[Edited 2011-03-03 13:20:42]

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