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Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:39 am

We all have favorites... airlines, aircraft, liveries, and the real geeks among us have a favorite engine manufacturer. I'd like to hear from A.netters on this subject -- what's yours? And if you have an engine in particular that you adore, tell us about it too.

I've always been a Pratt & Whitney fan, myself. As an NW-loyalist for years, I logged countless trips on P&W-powered birds like the DC-9, DC-10-40, and 757. As for my favorite engine, it's the JT8D hands down. It was so dominant in it's day, powering the 727, 737-100/200, DC-9, MD-80 and others. And I've had my ears blasted off more times than I can count spotting those a/c.  
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:08 am

The engines
Favourite engine: Rolls Royce dart engines, man those things howl!!

The planes
Favourite plane Manufacturer: Call me biast -> Fokker (27,50,70,100 are all nice planes to fly on and look at)

Favourite non Dutch plane -> Airbus A340-500 Soooooo quiet.

Favourite Soviet Era plane -> Il 62M, build like a tank, operated by interesting airlines, sounds great and looks awesome.

Favourite bizjet, (not that I have flown on one) Bombardier Global Express. -> if you own one and have a spare seat available don't hesitate to contact me   In my opinion the best looking bizjet money can buy, 2nd place is for the Dassault Falcon 50EX

And last but not least, favourite piston pounder -> it's big, it's fast, John Travolta used to own one............it is the immensely beautiful and nostalgic Lockheed super constellation.

The airlines
Favourite long haul airline: KLM - their service is in my opinion great.
Favourite short haul airline: Ryanair -> for flights shorter than 2 hours and trips that don't require a suitcase to be checked in. They fly from an airport 10 minutes from my house so it's mostly a convenience thing.

Favourite livery, BMi -> it ain't white and actually looks pretty flashy.


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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:54 am

Rolls Royce

Merlin through ear splitting Conway and Spey through to the RB211 and Trent series. I love those big loud Rollers  
 
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:09 pm

I'm in an everlasting dilemma between liking the GE CF6 or the PW4000 series.. Apart from that I just love classic PW radial engines. The sound of the R1830 Twin Wasp is just... Amazing!
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:09 pm

I don't think I'm a particular fanboy of any engine manufacturer. All I know is that I love the noise the GE90s make - the fact that they're the largest and most powerful turbofans is a bonus! CF6-80s on 744s and 767s also look fantastic - at least, aesthetically, and I quite like the noise they make too.

RR's Trent 700s look very suited to the A333, while the RB211s look pretty decent on a 744 - although I prefer the aesthetics of the GE CF6.
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:00 pm

First and always first with me, Pratt & Whitney and I agree with GBLKD's post two.....Rolls is also a fav.
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:09 pm

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 4):
don't think I'm a particular fanboy of any engine manufacturer. All I know is that I love the noise the GE90s make - the fact that they're the largest and most powerful turbofans is a bonus! CF6-80s on 744s and 767s also look fantastic - at least, aesthetically, and I quite like the noise they make too.

I agree.

And yep, Those GE90s and CF6-80s are beast!
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:39 pm

RR all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Although I have never heard anything quite like a GE90 start up!

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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:55 am

I've always been a fan of Pratt & Whitney, particularly for the PW2040 and the JT8D   

CFM and GE are tied for second on my list.

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Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:28 pm


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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:01 pm

Pratt & Whitney for me...

Although I like GE engines, I'm not so fond of the company overall. I'd rather root for an underdog like PW.
 
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:14 pm

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 4):
RR's Trent 700s look very suited to the A333, while the RB211s look pretty decent on a 744 - although I prefer the aesthetics of the GE CF6.

It's strange, I really like the Trent on the A330, but for some reason always thought the RB211 looks odd on the 744. I guess it's because I'm used to the more hunky P&W and GE engines on 747s. Now, when it comes to the RB211 on the L-1011 or 757, there's nothing wrong with that!   

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 8):
CFM and GE are tied for second on my list.

The CFM 56 does deserve an honorable mention for me, since they've gotten me safely to my destinations more times than I can count. I once read somewhere that every three seconds, a CFM 56-powered aircraft takes off or lands somewhere in the world -- a pretty impressive feat, if you ask me!

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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:45 pm

I'm a big fan of RR engines. Love the sound of RB211's.  


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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:03 pm

As a pilot with considerable time spent using all three, I have a decidedly least favorite brand, while the other two both have pros and cons. I don't really care what the nacelle looks like or any of the other aesthetics some people seem hung up on, although I do miss the sound of an L-1011 starting with the old RB211s.

On balance I would say my favorite to fly are GEs. They start quickly and without difficulty, they are quiet, and they are N1-driven, which I prefer from an operator's point of view (I know the arguments in favor of EPR, I just don't find them especially persuasive.)

The Rolls engines are great once you get them started, which (especially with older RB211s) could be difficult at times. They are generally super long lasting, which is nice. As a Tristar fan, I don't see any major issues with them overall, and I never had one fail.

Easy least favorite: Pratt. I have had three inflight engine failures in my career, all on Pratt powered aircraft (B-727, MD-80, B-757.) I completely realize this isn't a valid statistical sample, but I don't favor EPR-driven engines, and I have had far more issues with Pratts than all the other engines combined.
 
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:55 pm

I like the CFM56-3 the most. It looks absolutely great under the wing of a 737.

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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:30 am

Has to be RR for me, the sound and aesthetics are fantastic.
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:58 pm

Quoting KGRB (Thread starter):
I've always been a Pratt & Whitney fan, myself.

Me too.  

PW1000G (if future EIS engines are allowed).   

However, I'm a 'fan' of all Jet engines.  
Quoting PGNCS (Reply 13):
I have had far more issues with Pratts than all the other engines combined.

The PW2000 had issues, so that one on your list doesn't surprise me. When were the 727 and MD-80 issues?

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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:05 am

Allow me to step in with an airline mechanic's perspective!

GE wins hands-down. Reliable, trustworthy, brilliantly engineered, and EASY TO WORK ON.

A Rolls is an engine I trust as a passenger, but have never touched one as a mechanic. I do, however, have coworkers that hate certain tasks on RB211's, particularly related to thrust reverser lockout difficulty.

Pratt is probably my least favorite. They're junk. You can't build an engine in 1999 that's basically the same as the one you were building in 1955 and expect to thrive. I work on JT-8D's for a living, and don't care for them. Sure, they're great for what they were, but in the past decades, we've come up with MUCH BETTER powerplants.
I will say that a JT-8D is more damage tolerant than its contemporary competition.

But it's definitely GE for me, all the way. I include the CFM56 in that, which is also an absolutely wonderful piece of metal.
 
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:18 pm

No hesitation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0pIa0AlGR4

Though the Trent engines are great too.
 
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:50 pm

http://youtu.be/bN9-vMdROgk

Most definitely IAE, I know they are a combination of PW & RR

But in Order behind them:

1) Pratt & Whitney
2) Rolls Royce

Not fond of GE at all.
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Mon May 02, 2011 2:08 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 16):
Quoting PGNCS (Reply 13):
I have had far more issues with Pratts than all the other engines combined.

The PW2000 had issues, so that one on your list doesn't surprise me. When were the 727 and MD-80 issues?

Lightsaber

The 727 failure was in 1992; the MD-80 failure was in 1999 I believe.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 17):
Allow me to step in with an airline mechanic's perspective!

Thanks for your perspective! Your experience interestingly mirrors my opinions perfectly. I have heard about the difficulty of working reverser issues on the RB211, but since I have no experience as a mechanic, I will stay out of your department.  
Quoting united319 (Reply 19):
Not fond of GE at all.

Just curious, based on what? I'm not implying that you are wrong in any way, I am just wondering what rationale informed your opinion.
 
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Mon May 02, 2011 5:51 am

Bristol Siddeley Engines Ltd! Otherwise, the Rolls-Royce/SNECMA joint effort.

Though I'll admit, I'm a bit partial to those wonderful old Pratt & Whitney JT3 engines on the B707.  


You have no idea how close I was standing to John Travolta's B707 as it taxied in towards me, engines screaming away.  I won't ever forget it. It's a magnificent blast from the past, back to the golden era of aviation.   And we got a whole week of that lovely plane coming in and out of Sydney every day.

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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Mon May 02, 2011 2:48 pm

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 17):

LOL...I loved your comical post. The CMF56...is that the one from France?
JT8D,,,others didnt like it either like Boeing and the 727 and 737-200.
Dont forget Douglas and DC 9-10,20,30,40, and 50.
Naw...they didnt like it either.   
Jr, if you want to hate an engine, mess around with the Wright R-3350 DA-3 Turbo- compound that powered the Lockheed
L-1049G. Turbines are god-sent compared to "the good ole days" of piston. You're right about those past decades and better engines....better planes too. BIIIGGGGGG changes in the 60's, eh?
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RE: Your Favorite Engine-Maker

Mon May 02, 2011 4:11 pm

Quoting PGNCS (Reply 20):
Quoting united319 (Reply 19):
Not fond of GE at all.

Just curious, based on what? I'm not implying that you are wrong in any way, I am just wondering what rationale informed your opinion.

Strictly from an aesthetics point of view, I feel they look awkward & cheap, sound feels lack-luster. I am not questioning their performance or reliability in anyway shape or form.
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