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Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:03 am

I'm sorry if this thread pops up too often. What are the airlines that have not had any crashes in their history ? To make things easier, let's consider active airlines that are over 10 years old, have more than five aircraft, and operate internationally. You can include a runway overrun that caused fatalities as a crash, but ground incidents such as terrorism may not be considered ( as the latter would be out of the airline's control ). From my knowledge, a few are EK, QR and UL. Is QF really flawless too ?

[Edited 2011-05-23 19:06:24]
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:15 am

QF has never had a jet hull-loss. It did lose some prop-liners in the early days.

I'm not sure if the 747 that went golfing at BKK led to fatalities.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:16 am

TN as far as I know, meets your criteria.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:20 am

F9 meets the criteria as well.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:22 am

Quoting KFlyer (Thread starter):
but ground incidents such as terrorism may not be considered ( as the latter would be out of the airline's control ).

I wouldn't necessarily say that terrorism is out of the control of an airline. El Al for example has stringent security and has thwarted many terrorist attacks that probably would have been successful had a different airline been targeted.

Before his attack on AA63 The Shoe Bomber flew on El Al and his behavior and travel history were so suspicious that El Al seated an air marshal directly behind him. However, when he flew on AA no one thought anything of him until he lit his shoe on fire.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:31 am

I think 9W should make the list.....
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:42 am

Mesaba, the oldest operating "regional" airline in the USA. Crash and fatality free since 1944.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:45 am

HA had a DC-10 overrun the runway at PPT while landing there in December 2000; no injuries or fatalities, and the aircraft was repaired and returned to service. Aside from that, they've had some minor incidents over the years, but no crashes. (I do recall reading about an incident where they had a DC-3 crash into a tree in 1941; that aircraft was shipped back to California, repaired at the Douglas plant, and later returned to Hawaiian.)

AQ243 was the only fatal accident in Aloha's history, although WP had a DHC-6 crash in 1989 that killed all 20 onboard (Aloha IslandAir Flight 1712) while they were a sister company to AQ. There was also an incident in 1969 where an AQ Viscount collided with a parked HA DC-9 while taxiing for takeoff.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:59 am

Quoting Brenintw (Reply 1):
I'm not sure if the 747 that went golfing at BKK led to fatalities.

No fatalities, only damaged pride in the cockpit.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 3:23 am

m11stephen, if something happened on board, then it could be attributable to the airline to some extent. But had it happened on the ground, then that obviously is out of the airline's control and is the airport's responsibility.
Yes I too think that HA and 9W make it. Does anyone know whether BD fits in ?
Thanks for the responses guys, keep it going.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 3:56 am

I'm pretty sure BD had a wreck w/ fatalities. . .

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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 4:02 am

Jetstar I think is another. Virgin Australia (the new name for the Virgin Blue, Pacific Blue and other subsidiaries) is probably also another that hasn't crashed as far as I can remember.

Quoting KFlyer (Thread starter):
Is QF really flawless too ?

No, they've had a crash too:

http://pirep.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6422

[Edited 2011-05-23 21:03:28]

[Edited 2011-05-23 21:05:20]
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 4:32 am

BW- the old BWIA and the current Caribbean Airlines (BWIA's successor) has never had a crash.

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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 4:33 am

Jetblue hasn't had any.  
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 4:51 am

Quoting cpd (Reply 11):
Is QF really flawless too ?

No, they've had a crash too:

http://pirep.org/forum/viewtopic.php...=6422

They always state that they have never had any fatalities on a jet.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 5:12 am

When posting an airline in this thread, please knock on a piece of wood!

  
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 5:28 am

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 14):
They always state that they have never had any fatalities on a jet.

Same goes for AY. Last time when they lost a plane it was a DC-3 in 1963 and the airline was still called Aero.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 5:32 am

Quoting KFlyer (Thread starter):
but ground incidents such as terrorism may not be considered ( as the latter would be out of the airline's control )

Just got a chuckle reading this while looking at the flag of the OP's nationality, Sri Lanka. I believe UL had a few planes blown up on the tarmac...
...we won't count it as a crash though. Happy?  
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 5:41 am

Many small or new airlines would fit in that category, which means that most LCCs would qualify, as well as quite a lot of regionals.

AFAIK; Ryanair, Easyjet, Norwegian, Wizzair, Air Berlin, Vueling, Air Baltic etc. have never had fatal crashes.

Actually I think that more airlines are "crash-free" than not...
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 6:33 am

SN (Brussels Airlines that is) hasn't also had any crash however they only exists for 10 years now... The last fatal crash of the old SN (Sabena) was dated back in 1968. In 1998 a A342 of SN went through the landinggear and spinned 180° on the tarmac. Nobody killed nor serious injuries in that incident. The plane was repaired and is still flying today (with Royal Jordanian).
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 6:47 am

I'm pretty sure HU is crash-free... 
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 7:00 am

Quoting peanuts (Reply 17):
Just got a chuckle reading this while looking at the flag of the OP's nationality, Sri Lanka. I believe UL had a few planes blown up on the tarmac...
...we won't count it as a crash though. Happy?  

Happy happy.   
But SriLankan has never had any fatalities due to the bombings. They just lost three widebodies. It was during the Air Lanka time back in 1986 when a bombing of an L1011 caused fatalities. But after all, they are not the airline's responsibility, right ?
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 7:21 am

you can add Aegean Airlines , Oman air, Eva Air, Air Mauritius,Druk Air to name a few.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 7:28 am

Quoting ODAFZ (Reply 22):

you can add Aegean Airlines , Oman air, Eva Air, Air Mauritius,Druk Air to name a few.

Yes, except Druk, which has just two aircraft.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 8:13 am

Quoting HNLPointShoot (Reply 7):
HA had a DC-10 overrun the runway at PPT while landing there in December 2000; no injuries or fatalities, and the aircraft was repaired and returned to service. Aside from that, they've had some minor incidents over the years, but no crashes. (I do recall reading about an incident where they had a DC-3 crash into a tree in 1941; that aircraft was shipped back to California, repaired at the Douglas plant, and later returned to Hawaiian.)

To add to this, no fatalaties, and no hull losses, in nearly 82 years of continuous service.

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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 9:31 am

Quoting XaraB (Reply 18):
Ryanair

Ryanair had a crash. Dual birdsrike on approach to Rome, a/c was a write off I believe. Nobody killed, crew managed to make the runway.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 9:54 am

The Nancy Bird Walton Qantas first A380 is going to be written off it have been reported so that will be their first hull loss through no fault of their own.

Malaysian had a minor Accident which killed people but their reputation is also pretty clean.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 10:14 am

Quoting weebie (Reply 26):
The Nancy Bird Walton Qantas first A380 is going to be written off it have been reported so that will be their first hull loss through no fault of their own.

Really? The last I heard was that repairs were well underway and the plane was expected to return to service this summer. Where did you hear this?
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 10:15 am

Quoting weebie (Reply 26):
Malaysian had a minor Accident which killed people

I'm sure for the poor souls lost and their families, this would not be considered minor.

Quoting wn700driver (Reply 10):
I'm pretty sure BD had a wreck w/ fatalities. . .

Two fatal accidents on BMI's record, a Canadair Argonaut crashed on approach to MAN in 1967 killing 72 of the 84 persons on board. In January 1989 G-OBME a Boeing 737-4Y0 operating flight BD92, an LHR-BFS service crashed at Kegworth Leicestershire while attempting an emergency landing at EMA. 47 of the 126 persons on board died.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 10:21 am

Quoting weebie (Reply 26):
The Nancy Bird Walton Qantas first A380 is going to be written off it have been reported so that will be their first hull loss through no fault of their own

Source please
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 10:31 am

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 27):
Quoting weebie (Reply 26):
The Nancy Bird Walton Qantas first A380 is going to be written off it have been reported so that will be their first hull loss through no fault of their own.

Really? The last I heard was that repairs were well underway and the plane was expected to return to service this summer. Where did you hear this?

The plane has been moved out of a SQ hangar and is sitting out on the open missing engines and a number of other parts. Repairs have not started BUT there has been no announcement to my knowledge of it being written off
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 11:02 am

Quoting peanuts (Reply 17):
Just got a chuckle reading this while looking at the flag of the OP's nationality, Sri Lanka. I believe UL had a few planes blown up on the tarmac...
...we won't count it as a crash though. Happy?

I hadn't even noticed that one, thanks for the pointer  

Back to the topic:
Aurigny Air Services has had no crashes since they started services in 1968 as far as I am aware. And they do operate to France so that qualifies them for a carrier with international service.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 11:09 am

Quoting KFlyer (Thread starter):
What are the airlines that have not had any crashes in their history ?

JM is one of them. Impeccable safety record over the years.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 11:25 am

Quoting gr8circle (Reply 5):
I think 9W should make the list.....

Well 9W did have a "crash" landing at Indore in 2007. All passengers and crew were safe, but the aircraft was written off.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:15 pm

AB is crashless as well
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:17 pm

UN TRANSAERO didn't have any.
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Tue May 24, 2011 2:23 pm

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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:26 pm

Quoting azjubilee (Reply 6):
Crash and fatality free since 1944.

They ought to put that in a commercial, i guarantee you they'll get customers.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:28 pm

I know F9 hasn't existed since 1944, I meant to add F9 is the only US carrier that meets your criteria. If that were advertized, it would look really good for bringing in customers.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:28 pm

Quoting bueb0g (Reply 25):
Ryanair had a crash
Quoting bueb0g (Reply 25):
Nobody killed

Indeed.

Quoting XaraB (Reply 18):
Ryanair
Quoting XaraB (Reply 18):
never had fatal crashes
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:32 pm

AC has not had a hull loss since it was privatized in 1988.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:34 pm

Austrian Airlines have never crashed what I can remember. Same with Cimber air in Denmark.
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 2:58 pm

Quoting XaraB (Reply 39):
Indeed.

Well that's not entirely fair. The thread counts crashes; as in write offs; as in hull losses. The 1st post states nothing about fatalities other than overunns with fatalaties can be counted.

A crash does not have to involve a loss of life to be serious. Look at BA038 - one of the most serious accidents of the last 10 years.
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 3:16 pm

Etihad.  

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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 3:24 pm

Quoting T8KE0FF (Reply 43):
Etihad.

I guess you could argue that it wasn't their fault, but there was Etihad A340 that jumped it's chocks on a ground run in TLS and was pretty much destroyed before it was delivered to them...


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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 3:31 pm

Quoting bueb0g (Reply 42):
The thread counts crashes

You're right, of course   Got hung up in the "fatality" thing, and thought your answer to my post merely restated my original post. As a matter of fact, I had completely forgotten about the Rome accident, so double fault on me...

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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 3:33 pm

Transavia (HV) didn't have any crashes as well. Some minor incidents though
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 3:43 pm

Westjet is also crash free...
 
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 3:44 pm

Quoting katanapilot (Reply 40):
AC has not had a hull loss since it was privatized in 1988.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19971216-0&lang=en

Sorry, no fatalities but the Fredericton accident was a hull loss, even if it was only a CRJ (and yes it was still Air Canada mainline)

On the other hand... Westjet has had no hull loses to date...
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RE: Airlines Without Crashes

Tue May 24, 2011 5:37 pm

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 38):
I know F9 hasn't existed since 1944, I meant to add F9 is the only US carrier that meets your criteria. If that were advertized, it would look really good for bringing in customers.

I think you can add VX & B6 to that list.
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