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Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:33 am

Just musing about past flying experiences and got to thinking what aircraft provides that really powerful feeling on takeoff. My personal favourite is the DC-10-30 from the good old BCal days.

Just a bit of fun. What do you think?
 
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Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:16 pm

I'd say the 757-200, when I recently flew FI MAN-KEF-MAN on a school trip, the take-off from KEF was very powerful, I mean the seatbelt sign was off a minute after take off and it was a pretty steep climb!
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:21 pm

My view is that is has more to do with the airport/aircraft/load combination than just specific types. The BAe 146/RJ at FAE or LCY are powerful rolls and the Dash 8 on any short runway will throw you back into your seat too.


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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:47 pm

As Dan mentioned, "powerfullness" is of course depending on various circumstances, but if those are right..

Back in 2006 SunExpress offered seats on what seamed to be not more then a weekly positioning flight from AYT to BJV.
Flight # 940, covering the incredible distance of 280km's, departed at some disgustingly early hour (around 04.30 a.m. IIRC), but was operated by one of XQ's remaining 757's which of course triggered my interest...

Anyway, with barely a dozen passengers aboard that thing sure went off like a freakin' rocket!
 
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Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:53 pm

I once flew a 757-200 (FI) off from AEY on a reposition to KEF with a 5% load factor or something and it was like being in a freakin' rocket! I haven't tried the 777-300ER but my dad flew on it and the t/o was full throttle...he said it was amazing! Also, it was on a relatively short flight (CX HKG-MNL) so it climbed really fast! Also, I flew TF-FIX (753) from BOS in Jun 2010 and that was a steep climb! Vid here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0GnDbxYl0s (and there are more vids on the channel, some advertising here   ) My dad took many of the vids tho.

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Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:54 pm

777-200.LR DOH-DXB is real kick in the butt experience......

I agree also that 757s on short flights are usually very good too.

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Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:00 pm

It's really hard to top the B752 I rode out of SNA back in 2006 to Atlanta.. airborne in 7 seconds, power off per noise abatement. It was the closest to a zero-grav flight that I think I'll ever get to do.  
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:14 pm

As many above have said, the 757 by far has one of the most powerful take-off experiences depending on the scenario. I was once on a late-night FLL-CLT on the 757 and it felt like we shot straight up into the air. I always try to get a 757, makes for a fun take-off every time.

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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:23 pm

I'd say GOL 737-800SFP taking off from SDU. Amazing!!
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:38 am

The 757 definitely can provide that rocket-like feeling. I've experienced a full power (I'm guessing, anyway) noise abatement takeoff in a 757 one time, and it definitely pressed me back into my seat. The climb angle felt like it was about 45 degrees as well. (I'm sure it was more like 15, but it felt very steep.)

I also had the experience of flying in a GE-90 powered 777-300ER from NRT-ITM, with about a 30% pax load and obviously hardly any fuel. That was a pretty crazy takeoff too. Felt like we were off the ground in about 10 seconds.

I do think the 747-400 provides a different sort of powerful feeling, though. It's very loud and there's a lot of vibration inside the cabin and it feels like I always imagined the Saturn V feels when it's lifting off. It may not be the quickest acceleration-wise, but it just feels like there's a massive amount of thrust propelling this huge airplane forward. I don't know if the A380 feels the same way as I've never flown on one.

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Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:43 am

This flight was on New Years 2009. It was a NWA 757 200, on the DTW-LAX sector of NWA DTW-LAX-HNL route, and I was flying home for a holiday break. It a cold winter day, when we took off, and this thing took off like a rocket, that was one of the best take off I ever had.      
 
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:03 am

The most powerful takeoff i have experienced was in a CRJ-200 NRK-CPH. It was empty besides me and a colleague + the pilots who just wanted to get home after being stuck in NRK for the night.

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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:39 am

My most powerful takeoff was in a turboprop! It was a C-2 departing form USS Ronald Reagan. I guess the catapult should be counted too. 0-140 MPH in about 400 feet.
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:25 am

I agree the 757 is awesome.. But I think the 717 is right there with it and being lower to the ground it makes it seem like its going that much faster.
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:54 am

I am rather jealous of all the light load 757 t/o's. My own expriences on this type were all heavy loaded, LHR-GLA, LHR-EDI, and one particularly nasty TATL journey CLE-LGW.
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:17 am

the 747s are great when you fly them on a short domestic route like BNE-SYD, with out the tanks being full that just shoot off like a rocket, had some of the shortest take off roles on a light 747!
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:55 pm

757-200 + 19 passengers + STT = body pinned to seat!
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:12 pm

I was on a fully loaded CX 777-300ER, and distinctly remember the powerful take-off that pinned me to the back of my seat. It was an awesome experience. I'd like to try the 777-200LR - it should be even better with more or less the same engines powering a smaller, lighter aircraft.
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:09 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
777-200.LR DOH-DXB is real kick in the butt experience......

Had a similar experience on GRU-EZE-GRU, powerful but very smooth.

One of my best experiences was flying in a BAe 146-100 from an 850m runway. Sat wiggling on the turning circle as the power was cranked up, then off it went like a spring being released. Even had about 50-100m of runway spare.

Another good ride was the pilot of a Syrian 747-SP at LHR who ignored the ample runway length and went for it - lifting smoothly off the runway in under 1000m.

Iberia's DC-9-87s/MD-88s deserve a mention as well. Noisy, powerful, and on the MAH-BCN hops I flew frequently they would throw you into the back of your seat and not stop climbing like a rocket until almost at cruise.

I also remember having an insane STOL-like take off in a Tu-154, which isn't exactly known for sprightly performance! Very light load but still a 1000 mile flight, it threw itself down the concrete and reached into the sky after about a 1000m roll and just soared upwards, must have been above 1500ft when passing over the runway end. A similar take off I once experienced in a Yak-42 resulted in some unsettling shuddering and vibration a minute or so into the steep climb, causing the pilots to quickly force the nose down, but this Tu-154 just kept going up like a rocket.

Overall most powerful though is a winch launch in a glider. Lets you know a little of what a carrier launch is like, only you then go up at what seems like 90 degrees.


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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:25 pm

An empty 777-200ER on AFW-DFW. The flight lasts a mere 3 minutes, it seemed as though a handful of seconds were enough to get off the ground. Taxi time at DFW takes longer than the actual flight!

An A330 full of passengers but relatively empty of cargo and fuel on a Rapidair flight (YYZ-YUL vv) packs a pretty good punch too.
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:02 pm

Boeing aircraft usually make more noise and seem to have a higher Vrotate speed. That is why I will vote the following:
1) 777-200ER. Wow, what a roar and what a power it has! I am curious to the 77W
2) Avro RJ100 (LCY). the spool up and the release of the breaks. Wow!
3) 737-800/900. So amazing (when fully loaded)
4) MD83 (and MD82/MD88). getting pushed in your seat. Stunning!
5) 757-200: like the MD-80 it is really overpowered. Amazing each time. Unfortunately we do not have them that often anymore in Europe.
6) A340-300/600. So slow, so sluggy. It is quite powerful but because the amount of runway it needs to take off, I add these beautiful birds to this list.
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:29 pm

I'd say a Lear 35... having no pax and pushing that throttle to the max, you'd get a feeling like few people do... 6000' per min climb is not unheard of.
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:30 pm

Quoting stratosphere (Reply 13):
But I think the 717 is right there with it and being lower to the ground it makes it seem like its going that much faster.

  
Back when YX flew them in and out of Omaha, I remember a lot of powerful takeoffs. Of course, it was hard to get a low-weight one because the flights I ended up on (based on timing) were always popular and filled to capacity!
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:55 am

Quoting 747m8te (Reply 15):
the 747s are great when you fly them on a short domestic route like BNE-SYD

Flew that route on Sunday morning, ripper of a takeoff

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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:59 am

The most powerful TO I had, was on an MX DC-10-15 outbound from MTY that is almost at sea level, and the pilots pulled a full thrust, rolling take off. It was amazing, as said before, by the time we went over the end of the runway we were really high. The accleration was also very strong.

Routinely, I find the 744 outbounf from MEX have amazingly powerful TOs especially when bound to Europe. Funny thing is, once airborne, it does not seem they are climbing. It´s pretty slow. Last time I flew MEX-FRA on an LH 744 we took off and did not turn until we reach TAM. Amazing.
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:24 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 24):
Funny thing is, once airborne, it does not seem they are climbing.

They can have a pretty slow climb when fully loaded, but then so can the 77W. One of my regular routes is JFK-NRT, which used to always be on 744's, and lately is always on 77W's. One of the craziest takeoffs I've experienced on the opposite extreme to this thread was in an ANA 744, and they had nosewheel cams do you could watch what was going on. I watched as we lumbered down the runway and lifted off just as the far end of the runway passed under the cam view. (Those cam views have a somewhat narrow field of view, so I'm sure we still had a bit of runway left.) I really was starting to think prior to that point that we were headed for the trees just beyond the runway. We were still only at what seemed like about 100 feet when we cleared those trees. The rest of the climb seemed to take about an hour to reach cruising altitude.

But I've had similar experiences on the 77W when heavily loaded on a summer flight to Japan... it can take a long time to get off the ground and then get to cruise.

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Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:27 pm

I am surprised no one has mentioned this, but the MD-11 is the most powerful plane I have flown so far, flew with Finnair on SIN-BKK sector, the plane rocketed into the sky effortlessly. Absolutely enjoyable!
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:24 pm

Quoting Shnoob940 (Reply 23):
Flew that route on Sunday morning, ripper of a takeoff

Even with a full pax load...because there is very little fuel in the belly, it just powers off in no time! ...you notice it more after doing some long runs to LAX then doing a short domestic hop like this one! Love it!
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:48 pm

I say the 777-300ER. Took off from MNL on an EY 77W, I was seated right next to the engines...boy it was powerful! I was literally pushed back against my seat because I was leaning forward right before take off.

But I also agree with the 757. Flew DTW-FLL on DL last summer, it was indeed very powerful!

For anyone who has flown 5J (Philippines), those pilots go crazy on the throttle! It's that and the length of most runways in the Philippines. One of the most powerful take off I had was on an A320.
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:47 pm

Lear 25B - turbojets, not fans and a 6200 fpm max climb rate. Of course doing this tends to set off noise sensors around airports.
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:59 pm

Air Canada 777-200 LR from toronto to vancouver. First time on the "LR" and WOW what a powerful takeoff.  
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:17 am

My most powerful take-off experience has to be EK 777-300ER on the JNB-DXB route. JNB is at altitude so the aircraft needs all the power it can get to reach take off speed as quickly as possible. JNB also has a very long runway so you really spend some time in take-off roll taking in all that GE90 power.
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:07 pm

Out of all the aircraft types i've flown on (72 and counting), id have to say the one with the most back-glued-to the seat kick is the 727-100. I remember my first experience on the -100 was when i was around 9 years old and I was upset that I wasn't getting what was then my favorite plane type, the 727-200. A business traveler who overheard me making a fuss, asked me what I liked about the -200 and I said that the takeoffs were really fast, he said "then you're going to love the 100, it's even faster than the 200." He was right. The moment we began our takeoff roll my face lit up like it was christmas. I was pounding my armrest, I loved it.

PlymSpotter, try a full TU154 on a hot summer day, the thing takes off and lands like a brick. It was a thoroughly nervewracking experiece lumbering to the end of the runway and seeing trees pass just underneath us as we heave into the sky feeling like we're barely airborne.

As for modern experiences, I'd have to say taking off in what seemed like blizzard conditions on the LH A346 was definitely fun and invigorating.
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:10 pm

Quoting RodRB (Reply 8):
I'd say GOL 737-800SFP taking off from SDU. Amazing!!

I agree completely! The acceleratiom is absolutely amazing!!!
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:26 am

Flew a Tu154 last year on a warm Uzbek day, full of pax, oh man, that thing was a dog, felt like we had to use all the runway, just because it was there. For thrills, I put my vote in for the 752. That is a plane that just loves to jump into the air. Also been on a SWA 737 out of BUR and was in the rear facing seat, looking out the window like straight down. Noise abatement fast roll and steep as heck take off.

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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:03 am

hard to beat a 757 out of SNA...lot's of power, a steep climb for a few seconds and then power way off and reduce the climb angle...so unusual the pilot will often make an announcenent before take off.
 
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RE: Aircraft Providing Powerful Takeoff Feeling?

Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:57 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 9):
The 757 definitely can provide that rocket-like feeling. I've experienced a full power (I'm guessing, anyway) noise abatement takeoff in a 757 one time, and it definitely pressed me back into my seat. The climb angle felt like it was about 45 degrees as well. (I'm sure it was more like 15, but it felt very steep.)

Actually initial climb out of SNA on the 757 can be as high as 25 degrees, as I understand it, so your feeling of steepness was not all your imagination.

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