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Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:23 am

What are the highest/lowest density 77W configurations currently in use? Is AF with 472 and NH with 215 correct for highest/lowest, respectively?

It would be great to see a 77W density breakdown per carrier if anybody has that handy.
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:39 am

NZ is high density 3-4-3. 44/44/244= 334
BA is low density 14/56/44/186= 300
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:47 am

Ugghh....how does AF manage to squeeze in 472 seats on a 77W???
 
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:57 am

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 2):
Ugghh....how does AF manage to squeeze in 472 seats on a 77W???

They use mainly for the tourist destinations.... they are called CIO config... Caribbean and Indian Ocean..... Business class section is very small and then 3-4-3 on a B773ER.

I think KLM config is also close to that.. Even emirates uses 3-4-3
 
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:26 am

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 2):
Ugghh....how does AF manage to squeeze in 472 seats on a 77W???
Quoting migair54 (Reply 3):
I think KLM config is also close to that.. Even emirates uses 3-4-3

AF: 14C / 36Y / 422M = 472
EK: 42C / 385M = 427 (2-class version)
KL: 35C / 40Y / 350M = 425
 
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:29 am

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 2):

Ugghh....how does AF manage to squeeze in 472 seats on a 77W???

Its not impossible, NH manages to squeeze about 516 on their domestic 773s
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:19 am

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 5):
Quoting lucky777 (Reply 2):

Ugghh....how does AF manage to squeeze in 472 seats on a 77W???


Its not impossible, NH manages to squeeze about 516 on their domestic 773s

I understand NH also has the lowest density 77Ws - they only seat 215.

I'd have thought the highest density 77Ws would be the Air Austral birds?
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:32 am

EY's two-class B777-300ERs accommodate 412 pax. It also adopts 10-across in Y.
 
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:09 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 6):


I'd have thought the highest density 77Ws would be the Air Austral birds?

Well according to their website they seat 442 on their 77W's
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:21 pm

Quoting migair54 (Reply 3):
Quoting lucky777 (Reply 2):Ugghh....how does AF manage to squeeze in 472 seats on a 77W???
They use mainly for the tourist destinations.... they are called CIO config... Caribbean and Indian Ocean..... Business class section is very small and then 3-4-3 on a B773ER.

I've been on one. And it wasn't that bad as some people try to make it. It's a lot of people, but almost no one noticed that it had one extra seat per row than standard. Aisles were narrow, but seats still had 32" pitch. And the food and drinks were fabulous, lots of food and standard a little bottle of red wine, and even a small bottle of Caribbean rum. But that was 5 or 6 years ago, AF's service was a lot better those days.
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:44 pm

Quoting bioyuki (Thread starter):
What are the highest/lowest density 77W configurations currently in use?

NH's domestic service 777-300 seats 524, which I believe is the highest capacity in service today. While not an ER model, it has the same cabin dimensions.

NH's "Inspiration of Japan" long-range 777-300ERs seat 215, which I believe is the lowest capacity in service today.
 
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:00 pm

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 9):
I've been on one. And it wasn't that bad as some people try to make it. It's a lot of people, but almost no one noticed that it had one extra seat per row than standard. Aisles were narrow, but seats still had 32" pitch. And the food and drinks were fabulous, lots of food and standard a little bottle of red wine, and even a small bottle of Caribbean rum. But that was 5 or 6 years ago, AF's service was a lot better those days.

I went on one over xmas (to Cuba), only tolerable as I had an aisle seat and the middle seat next to me was empty. That middle seat would have been agony for anyone of a reasonable build. Food was adequate, the wine was decent, but no rum 

As I was near the back, it took a LONG time to get off...
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:25 pm

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 9):
lots of food and standard a little bottle of red wine, and even a small bottle of Caribbean rum. But that was 5 or 6 years ago, AF's service was a lot better those days.

In what way was the service better in "those days" ? The service in M on those flight has not changed. Still same little bottle of rum, free red/white wine, etc ...

i am just coming back from PTP to ORY on one of theses B77W... the pitch is much better than many on many other "regular" Y class and I could sleep almost the whole flight. As you said, nobody notices if there is 9 or 10 abreast, this subject is only always a big deal on A.Net ...
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RE: Highest/Lowest Density 77Ws?

Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:01 am

Quoting joost (Reply 4):
Quoting lucky777 (Reply 2):
Ugghh....how does AF manage to squeeze in 472 seats on a 77W???
Quoting migair54 (Reply 3):
I think KLM config is also close to that.. Even emirates uses 3-4-3

AF: 14C / 36Y / 422M = 472
EK: 42C / 385M = 427 (2-class version)
KL: 35C / 40Y / 350M = 425

AC's 77Ws are much more civilized. 42J, 307Y (9-abreast), total 349.
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