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danielmyatt
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US Domestic Widebodies.

Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:32 pm

Hi all,

A search reveals no recent threads on this so I thought I'd ask.
I'm off to work in the States for the summer and want to try and catch some widebodies before I come home, ideally between LAX and New York. Stopping over somewhere doesn't really bother me if it's something good.

I know that AA fly 762's between LAX and JFK, but I was thinking more like 777's,744's or A330's?

Thanks for any help in advance.

P.S I will be travelling around mid September, if it helps.

[Edited 2012-04-25 09:55:34]
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:46 pm

If you have time, it's fun to take Cathay's YVR-JFK flight.

UA has international 777s LAX/SFO-IAD.

DL has international wide bodies LAX-DTW/ATL
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:49 pm

Ok cool, unfortunately I'm not allowed to leave the country and re-enter as a condition of my J-1 visa.
But I'll have a look at the other options thanks.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:20 pm

UA often offers 767s and 777s between DEN, ORD, SFO, and IAD in many combinations (I'm not sure if these are internationally configured).

DL sometimes offers 767s and 777s on ATL-West Coast routes.

There's always Mainland - Hawaii and West Coast - Florida too, but those are a bit out of your way. I don't think you can get a scheduled 744 domestically anymore, there's only the rare equipment swap.

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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:56 pm

US also has 767's CLT-PHL. Short hop, but fun!
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danielmyatt
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:58 pm

The delta options are ridiculously expensive... LA to DTW and on to JFK tops 1400 dollars   
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:51 pm

AA schedules 762's on transcon flights out of JFK. They schedule 763's domestically sometimes -- from DFW or ORD to SFO and LAX. (other experts here could probably give you the current domestic summer schedules)

AA 763's also are scheduled domestically -- DFW - HNL (2 flights a day)
DFW - OGG (1 flight)
ORD - HNL (1 flight)

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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:37 pm

AA has domestic widebodies from MIA to:
JFK 763 and 762
LAX 777, 763
ORD 763
SFO 763.
They have ran 777s on MIA-JFK a decent amount of times but unfortunately it does not look like this summer it will be running.
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:21 am

What are the domestic 762's out of LAX like? Never flown on any domestic US flights other than CO to and from MIA - EWR and it was a fairly crappy flight, and on a 739.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:58 am

And another strange thing, it is £30 cheaper for me to fly LAX-IAD-HPN to catch a 777 than it is just to go LAX-IAD on the same flight... How can this be possible?
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:01 pm

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 8):
What are the domestic 762's out of LAX like?

AA's 762's they use transcon LAX to JFK are some of the older aircraft in their fleet. They are configured 3 - class. 10 FC seats with 62" pitch. 30 J class with 50" pitch. 128 economy with 33" pitch. In FC and J you would get PVD (they are using a Samsumg Tablet now) at each seat and premium cabin complimentary meal/beverage service. Economy -- overhead screens and b.o.b. food.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:43 pm

That Cathay flight from JFK to YVR is hideously expensive. Nice option though!
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:47 pm

I am seriously considering the 777 flight between LAX and IAD, then up to HPN on a Colgan Saab, all for a measly £120. Trouble is, with all the Colgan troubles as is, would that flight be a Saab when I come to fly it in September, or will it even be running at all?
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:37 pm

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 9):

And another strange thing, it is £30 cheaper for me to fly LAX-IAD-HPN to catch a 777 than it is just to go LAX-IAD on the same flight... How can this be possible?


Has to do with origin/destination, not specific routing.
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:22 am

OK, a bit OT here... But does anyone have any options for BOS? I've looked and looked but can't find any itineraries that will show up in a flight search which involve widebodies. Even a 767 is fine for me. I am flying out of PDX.

People have recommended searching AS for AS PDX-LAX connecting to AA LAX-BOS. While these options are available, the LAX-BOS flights on AA are only 752s or 738s.

I also hear that double connections will often involve widebodies, but once again, I can't find them in a flight search. It's still all RJs, A319s/A320s, 737s, and 757s.

So my question is this: Does BOS see any domestic widebodies? And if so, how can I get them to show up in a flight search?

Thanks!  
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:09 am

I've looked and looked, as BOS will be my starting point for my travels when I finish work in August, and I can't find a thing, I'm surprised there is no widebody service to the west coast as you would have thought it'd be a busy route but I guess the days of Tower Air lumps from LAX to BOS complete with a Jim Carey are gone.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:07 am

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 15):
I've looked and looked, as BOS will be my starting point for my travels when I finish work in August, and I can't find a thing, I'm surprised there is no widebody service to the west coast as you would have thought it'd be a busy route but I guess the days of Tower Air lumps from LAX to BOS complete with a Jim Carey are gone.

Great post!

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 14):
OK, a bit OT here... But does anyone have any options for BOS? I've looked and looked but can't find any itineraries that will show up in a flight search which involve widebodies. Even a 767 is fine for me. I am flying out of PDX.

As for BOS widebody domestic those days are gone. AA and UA are no where near what they used to be in BOS. AA has ran a 777 on MIA-BOS for a few months at a time a few times but they have not done it in at least a year. They are utilizing their 777s a bit better now thankfully.
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:15 pm

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 15):
I'm surprised there is no widebody service to the west coast as you would have thought it'd be a busy route but I guess the days of Tower Air lumps from LAX to BOS complete with a Jim Carey are gone.

Huh?   

Quoting flymia (Reply 16):
As for BOS widebody domestic those days are gone.

Ah, that's what I was afraid of...  
Quoting flymia (Reply 16):
AA and UA are no where near what they used to be in BOS.

That would make sense, as I heard that American Eagle is pulling out of BOS entirely and mainline service is being cut back considerably. UA seems to run a pretty small operation as well.

Quoting flymia (Reply 16):
AA has ran a 777 on MIA-BOS for a few months at a time a few times but they have not done it in at least a year. They are utilizing their 777s a bit better now thankfully.

I also just found one LAX-DFW flight on a 763.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:20 pm

Quoting AlnessW:
huh?

I was referring to the film Liar Liar.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:24 pm

DL has a few SEA-MSP flights on 767-300s. I was surprised to see that, but it's there in the schedule.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:01 pm

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 18):
I was referring to the film Liar Liar.

Got it. Thanks!  
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 19):
DL has a few SEA-MSP flights on 767-300s. I was surprised to see that, but it's there in the schedule.

That surprises me, too.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:03 pm

On a side note, it looks like I a going to book a LAX-LGA flight via ATL on delta to catch a 777. Will a connection time of 1hr 05mins be enough at Atlanta?
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:54 pm

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 21):
Will a connection time of 1hr 05mins be enough at Atlanta?

As long as it is all under the same PNR you are protected, and will be rebooked to a later flight in case of a delay into ATL.

Enjoy your flight on the might 77L!
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:17 pm

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 21):
Will a connection time of 1hr 05mins be enough at Atlanta?

Just my    , but I would give yourself some more time. I've seriously had it with running through airports (like SFO for example) because my one hour layover turned into a 10 minute layover thanks to my inbound flight being late and my connection being on time. I've learned my lesson! Yes on 2-3 hour layovers.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:38 pm

Ok thanks guys, the DL website is giving me 2 options for connections at ATL for the same price, a 1 or 2 hour connection. I was just asking as the longer one doesn't get into LGA till 10pm, then I have to add travel time to my hotel after that.

Surely if I just book the flight with the 1 hour connection and I miss it DL will rebook me, but if I make it, alls good and I get to my hotel earlier?
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:49 pm

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 24):

Ok thanks guys, the DL website is giving me 2 options for connections at ATL for the same price, a 1 or 2 hour connection. I was just asking as the longer one doesn't get into LGA till 10pm, then I have to add travel time to my hotel after that.

Surely if I just book the flight with the 1 hour connection and I miss it DL will rebook me, but if I make it, alls good and I get to my hotel earlier?

If you misconnect, DL will book you on the next available flight space permitting. Note tho - flyers with higher status and fare classes will get priority over no status/lower fare classes.

That said, 1hr is fine in LA. The flight time is padded and I've always arrived early into ATL every time I've flown from the west coast.
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:49 am

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 24):
Surely if I just book the flight with the 1 hour connection and I miss it DL will rebook me, but if I make it, alls good and I get to my hotel earlier?

Unless the later flight is full or oversold. Then you might have a problem.
Bottom line: Don't risk missing a flight so you can save one humongous hour.

Quoting alitalia744 (Reply 25):
The flight time is padded and I've always arrived early into ATL every time I've flown from the west coast.

But then there's the one time your aircraft needs repairs and the flight is held captive on the ground for an hour and a half... It has happened to me! Two hours to change terminals in LAX would've been fine if my inbound flight wasn't 90 minutes late.   
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:13 pm

In 2007 I went on a red-eye UA B763 between LAX-IAD. The flight came from HNL with same flight number.

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 2):

The good ol J1 visa! Going to work for Camp America?
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:17 pm

Yesterday I flew a 767-300ER between ATL and JFK. I know ATL-DTW also sees widebodies sometimes, as does ATL-west coast routes (LAX, etc.)

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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:41 pm

I've booked on the LAX-ATL flight to ride on a 777. What are Delta's 777-200lr's like? Seems a very short route for a LR to be running.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:48 pm

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 29):
Seems a very short route for a LR to be running.

It is flying ATL-LAX-SYD-LAX-ATL, hence it is on LAX-ATL.
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:49 pm

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 28):
Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 29):


If only those widebody flights weren't so expensive...  
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:16 pm

It wasn't expensive at all. LAX to LGA via ATL for 170 dollars, and due to the weak dollar against the pound it only cost me just under £105
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Tue May 01, 2012 4:25 am

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 32):
It wasn't expensive at all. LAX to LGA via ATL for 170 dollars

Good to know, thanks.
 
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RE: US Domestic Widebodies.

Tue May 01, 2012 4:45 pm

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 31):
If only those widebody flights weren't so expensive...

I could have gone to LGA on a 757 for the same price; in fact I wish I had since the 757 would have had AVOD, and the 763 had nothing. They also left my bag in Atlanta  

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