Biman DC-10 Special Flight: Mark Your Calendars

SwissCanuck · Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:17 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 49):
Some spectacular lack of English comprehension going on here.

And some spectacular condescension.

I fully understand the situation. The fact remains I hold a ticket for a flight that is not yet on-sale (because it was sold by accident) and not guaranteed to fly. I've tried to clarify this with Biman but have yet to receive a response. I realize exactly what went wrong. The truth is what they said would happen, and what happened, was not the same thing albeit for a brief moment.

As for your predictions for the future: I'm confident Sunday will eventually sell as well but I can't make other travel arrangements until I know which day I'm flying. I think my nervousness is perfectly justified and don't see a need for any remedial English lessons.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 49):
BG HQ are very responsive to emails. If you are unhappy with your booking, contact the airline and they will fix the issue.

They haven't been with me. I contacted the "sales" and "Ticketing and Reservations" emails listed on their web site. If you'd like to suggest an address that gets a quicker response I'd be grateful.

[Edited 2014-01-15 00:19:09]

mxp · Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:26 am

Same happened to me. I have confirmation for sunday morning 9.00 flight did yesterday morning and same im not doing any booking. And no answer received with mail too
alberto

CrimsonNL · Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:33 am

Confirmed 0900 on Sunday!

Martijn

HAMSpotter · Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:36 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 49):
If you do not get a response, let me know by private message and I will contact the office of BG's management and get this situation fixed.

I just sent you a PM!

mxp · Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:52 am

Just got confirmation mail from biman for sunday at 9.00 after i booked yesterday morning. So they are answering and cedarjet was right.
Alberto

SwissCanuck · Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:06 am

Quoting mxp (Reply 54):

Sunday is now on sale as Monday filled up (as announced). So normal that you're all sorted now. Saturday remains a question mark - hopefully there's plenty of enthusiasts that were just waiting for the weekend to go on sale and the process will repeat itself. I'm just sitting on a great deal GVA-LHR and hoping things clarify before that sale expires.

Glad you're all sorted! Maybe see you there.

aloges · Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:41 am

I'll be in an aisle seat on the lunchtime flight on Sunday. Can't wait!

Quoting zululima (Reply 44):
which takes you through a third-party bank to process the credit card. Odd, but it does work.

That bank uses Verified by VISA (and probably the equivalent for MasterCard), so security isn't too much of an issue.

KPWMSpotter · Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:17 pm

Booked! Phew, that was a stressful couple hours waiting for Sunday to go up, thanks to everyone who booked on the Monday flights!

Continuing Auleyair's "who's coming" form:

COMFIRMED LIST:

Auleyair
KPWMSpotter

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MAYBE LIST:

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COMFIRMED FOR DC10 Sightseeing Flight

24th 0900 BG 2: Open For Booking

24th 1200 BG 4: Open For Booking
Auleyair

24th 1500 BG 8 (Last Sightseeing flight):

23rd 0900: BG 2: Open For Booking

23rd 1200: BG 4: Open For Booking
KPWMSpotter

23rd 1500: BG 8: Open For Booking

22rd 0900: (Not Open for booking yet)

22rd 1200: (Not Open for booking yet)

22rd 1500: (Not Open for booking yet)

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Outbound Flight

Auleyair DUB-MAN EI202 06:30-07:30 A320
KPWMSpotter ATL-YUL-AMS-MAN arriving 10:00 2/22 (CR7, MD-11!, 738)

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Inbound Flight

Auleyair BHX-DUB EI277 19:20-20:20 A320
KPWMSpotter MAN-ATL departing 10:05 2/24 (763)
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Hotel

KPWMSpotter: Hotel Britannia Birmingham
Auleyair -> 22nd -> Radisson Blu Manchester Airport
23rd -> Not Comfirm yet (Hotel in BHX)

aloges · Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:24 pm

Quoting KPWMSpotter (Reply 57):
Continuing Auleyair's "who's coming" form:

D'oh... I forgot.

Quoting KPWMSpotter (Reply 57):
COMFIRMED LIST:

Auleyair
KPWMSpotter
aloges

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MAYBE LIST:

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COMFIRMED FOR DC10 Sightseeing Flight

24th 0900 BG 2: Open For Booking

24th 1200 BG 4: Open For Booking
Auleyair

24th 1500 BG 8 (Last Sightseeing flight):

23rd 0900: BG 2: Open For Booking

23rd 1200: BG 4: Open For Booking
KPWMSpotter
aloges

23rd 1500: BG 8: Open For Booking

22rd 0900: (Not Open for booking yet)

22rd 1200: (Not Open for booking yet)

22rd 1500: (Not Open for booking yet)

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Outbound Flight

Auleyair DUB-MAN EI202 06:30-07:30 A320
KPWMSpotter ATL-YUL-AMS-MAN arriving 10:00 2/22 (CR7, MD-11!, 738)
aloges not booked

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Inbound Flight

Auleyair BHX-DUB EI277 19:20-20:20 A320
KPWMSpotter MAN-ATL departing 10:05 2/24 (763)
aloges not booked

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Hotel

KPWMSpotter: Hotel Britannia Birmingham
Auleyair -> 22nd -> Radisson Blu Manchester Airport
23rd -> Not Comfirm yet (Hotel in BHX)

MadameConcorde · Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:58 pm

I am confirmed on
Segment #1 BG-8 BHX-BBS 24 Feb 2014 DC10 Scenic Tour

Monday 24-Feb 3:00 PM 4:00 PM
Departs Birmingham (BHX) Lands in Birmingham (BBS) BG-8
Economy Class Nonstop

Last to Fly the DC-10

[Edited 2014-01-15 13:10:08]

DUSint · Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:15 pm

Every now and then Monday 24th window-seats are opened again. Maybe this results from incoming booking-cancellations.
Just booked window on the 12:00 flight.

Really looking forward to this travel back in time! The colorful seat patterns and inside walls - everything will remind me of my first flights as a child in the 80s. Fantastic and priceless experience.

Dc1015 · Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:54 pm

Hi All

I booked the 12:00 p.m. Saturday flight and the 3:00 p.m. Sunday flight first thing yesterday morning. I have email confirmation and my E-Tickets. I too found the wording on the website rather odd, but as soon as I had booked the second flight it appeared that all weekend tickets had sold out.

As I have my paid-for and confirmed reservation and E Ticket for both, I'm still somewhat disconcerted to read here that the Saturday flights haven't even been opened! Your (hopefully reassuring) comments are welcome!

Regards

Richard

eirik · Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:14 am

Saturday 22. is possible to book now, and window seats available on all flights except for the very last.

SC15 · Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:49 am

This should be interesting...

I have a confirmed window seat e-ticket for the 3:00 p.m. flight (BG8) on Monday the 24th!

This will be a one-day operation where everything must go as planned. I will be flying GOT-CPH on SK433, then CPH-BHX on SK2533 for a scheduled arrival time in Birmingham at 09:25. After the Biman flight I will be flying out of BHX for CPH at 19:10 on SK2536 and then CPH-GOT on SK448.

There is still a few things I need to sort out to make sure I can get out of work that day, but the chance to fly on the DC-10 (never done that before) is something I do not want to miss out on.

MIAspotter · Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:04 am

Saturday flights are now bookable!

I am tempted to buy a seat on the 12pm flight, but getting from BCN to LHR/LGW/LTN/STN/MAN and BHX those days is ridiculously expensive, I am trying to get an award ticket on BA (BCN-LHR-BCN) using my Qatar Miles but I have not yet received an answer from QR

Guess i´ll have to be FR BCN-BHX

MIAspotter.

MadameConcorde · Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:59 am

Quoting SC15 (Reply 63):
I have a confirmed window seat e-ticket for the 3:00 p.m. flight (BG8) on Monday the 24th!

I will be on the same flight "Last To Fly the DC-10".
It seems they oversold the number of window seats.

I monitored the flight from beginning to end now sold out..
I saw some fiddling around with window seats appearing and disappearing.

I was also confirmed for a window seat. I hope those of us who spent the ££££++ will be accomodated.
It could be anything. Wait and see. At least we have booking numbers but no seat numbers.

SwissCanuck · Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:10 am

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 64):
I am tempted to buy a seat on the 12pm flight,

If you do we'll see you there! As Saturday flights (re-)opened for booking today, we went ahead and made the rest of the arrangements. Arrive LHR Friday morning (SN via BRU), with hopefully some good spotting weather, and will most likely head to BHX in the evening. Back to London after the noon flight for an evening on the town and a Sunday market stroll. Flying out of LGW Sunday night (U2).

If there's a thirsty group in / around BHX Friday night, might be fun to have a pint.

Cheers.

MadameConcorde · Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:38 am

Is it possible to have a list of who will be flying on which flight and what day including the Dhaka-Birmingham?

This would allow us to meet prior to the flights. I will be happy to host one guest in the Skyteam lounge later in the afternoon if applicable before my 8.00 PM return flight.

KPWMSpotter · Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:49 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 67):
Is it possible to have a list of who will be flying on which flight and what day including the Dhaka-Birmingham?

A few posts up, there's already a partial list underway. I've taken the liberty of adding everyone who has posted a flight date and time to the list, it's up to everyone else to add their details.

Quoting aloges (Reply 58):
COMFIRMED LIST:

Auleyair
KPWMSpotter
aloges
CrimsonNL
ndebelebev
mxp
British747
zululima
Vendenheuvel
MadameConcorde
Dc1015
SC15

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MAYBE LIST:

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COMFIRMED FOR DC10 Sightseeing Flight

24th 0900 BG 2:
British747

24th 1200 BG 4:
Auleyair

24th 1500 BG 8 (Last Sightseeing flight):
SC15
MadameConcorde
SC15

23rd 0900: BG 2:
CrimsonNL
mxp
vendenheuvel

23rd 1200: BG 4:
KPWMSpotter
aloges

23rd 1500: BG 8:
Dc1015

22nd 0900: BG 2

22nd 1200: BG 4
Dc1015

22nd 1500: BG 8
ndebelebev

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Outbound Flight

Auleyair DUB-MAN EI202 06:30-07:30 A320
KPWMSpotter ATL-YUL-AMS-MAN arriving 10:00 2/22 (CR7, MD-11!, 738)
aloges not booked

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Inbound Flight

Auleyair BHX-DUB EI277 19:20-20:20 A320
KPWMSpotter MAN-ATL departing 10:05 2/24 (763)
aloges not booked

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Hotel

KPWMSpotter: Hotel Britannia Birmingham
Auleyair -> 22nd -> Radisson Blu Manchester Airport
23rd -> Not Comfirm yet (Hotel in BHX)

MadameConcorde · Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:08 pm

Quoting KPWMSpotter (Reply 68):
A few posts up, there's already a partial list underway. I've taken the liberty of adding everyone who has posted a flight date and time to the list, it's up to everyone else to add their details.

Thank you.

debonair · Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:39 pm

I will arrive @ 11am on Monday 24th, giving enough time for connex to the final flight BG8; I guess 12pm would be too tight... Leaving back home on 25th @ 11am, staying in BHX city center.

I guess the special sale will be robbed out by Monday, maybe any pre-departure-final-flight-memorial-meeting (to know each other) and maybe after-landing-final-flight-memorial-drinking downtown?

SC15 · Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:53 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 65):
I will be on the same flight "Last To Fly the DC-10".

I was also confirmed for a window seat. I hope those of us who spent the ££££++ will be accomodated.
It could be anything. Wait and see. At least we have booking numbers but no seat numbers.

Then I'll see you on board!

I am also a bit worried about the lack of assigned seats. I hope they will assign specific seats at the gate or it could be a bit troublesome during boarding with people rushing forward... Perhaps I should have more faith in our fellow travellers. It would be nice if it turns out to be a civilized and orderly last flight!

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 67):
This would allow us to meet prior to the flights. I will be happy to host one guest in the Skyteam lounge later in the afternoon if applicable before my 8.00 PM return flight.

I would be happy to accept such an invitation if offered! I am scheduled to fly out at 7:10 p.m. though, so I will not be able to stay until your flight leaves.

SwissCanuck · Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:17 pm

Added

Quoting KPWMSpotter (Reply 68):
COMFIRMED LIST:

Auleyair
KPWMSpotter
aloges
CrimsonNL
ndebelebev
mxp
British747
zululima
Vendenheuvel
MadameConcorde
Dc1015
SC15
SwissCanuck +1

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MAYBE LIST:

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COMFIRMED FOR DC10 Sightseeing Flight

24th 0900 BG 2:
British747

24th 1200 BG 4:
Auleyair

24th 1500 BG 8 (Last Sightseeing flight):
SC15
MadameConcorde
SC15

23rd 0900: BG 2:
CrimsonNL
mxp
vendenheuvel

23rd 1200: BG 4:
KPWMSpotter
aloges

23rd 1500: BG 8:
Dc1015

22nd 0900: BG 2

22nd 1200: BG 4
Dc1015
SwissCanuck +1

22nd 1500: BG 8
ndebelebev

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Outbound Flight

Auleyair DUB-MAN EI202 06:30-07:30 A320
KPWMSpotter ATL-YUL-AMS-MAN arriving 10:00 2/22 (CR7, MD-11!, 738)
aloges not booked

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Inbound Flight

Auleyair BHX-DUB EI277 19:20-20:20 A320
KPWMSpotter MAN-ATL departing 10:05 2/24 (763)
aloges not booked

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Hotel

KPWMSpotter: Hotel Britannia Birmingham
Auleyair -> 22nd -> Radisson Blu Manchester Airport
23rd -> Not Comfirm yet (Hotel in BHX)
SwissCanuck+1 -> Night of 21st -> Downtown Birmingham hotel

MadameConcorde · Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:59 pm

Quoting SC15 (Reply 71):
Then I'll see you on board!

or before even... and after too. Sent you a PM.

There is a thread on Flyertalk.

The more the merrier, as they say!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-scheduled-dc-10-flight-world.html

I think this will be a very interesting experience!!

PlymSpotter · Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:07 pm

Adding myself to the list. Will be arriving and departing locally by train.

COMFIRMED LIST:

Auleyair
KPWMSpotter
aloges
CrimsonNL
ndebelebev
mxp
British747
zululima
Vendenheuvel
MadameConcorde
Dc1015
SC15
SwissCanuck +1
PlymSpotter

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MAYBE LIST:

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CONFIRMED FOR DC10 FERRY FLIGHT: DAC-KWI-BHX, 20th FEB:

PlymSpotter

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CONFIRMED FOR DC10 Sightseeing Flights

24th 0900 BG 2:
British747

24th 1200 BG 4:
Auleyair

24th 1500 BG 8 (Last Sightseeing flight):
MadameConcorde
SC15
PlymSpotter

23rd 0900: BG 2:
CrimsonNL
mxp
vendenheuvel

23rd 1200: BG 4:
KPWMSpotter
aloges

23rd 1500: BG 8:
Dc1015

22nd 0900: BG 2

22nd 1200: BG 4
Dc1015
SwissCanuck +1

22nd 1500: BG 8
ndebelebev

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Outbound Flight

Auleyair DUB-MAN EI202 06:30-07:30 A320
KPWMSpotter ATL-YUL-AMS-MAN arriving 10:00 2/22 (CR7, MD-11!, 738)
aloges not booked

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Inbound Flight

Auleyair BHX-DUB EI277 19:20-20:20 A320
KPWMSpotter MAN-ATL departing 10:05 2/24 (763)
aloges not booked

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Hotel

KPWMSpotter: Hotel Britannia Birmingham
Auleyair -> 22nd -> Radisson Blu Manchester Airport
23rd -> Not Comfirm yet (Hotel in BHX)
SwissCanuck+1 -> Night of 21st -> Downtown Birmingham hotel

MadameConcorde · Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:11 pm

I noted what one Flyertalker said:
(quote)
Just a warning, Biman is a terrible airline. Don't take them for a long haul, the CGP-DAC run isn't too bad, but expect terrible delays and bad service (though on a short flight the service doesn't matter). However, trying a DC10 would be interesting!

DUSint · Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:14 pm

Anyone believes there will still be any saftey-cards left on the Monday-flights?

Updated:

Quoting SwissCanuck (Reply 72):
Quoting KPWMSpotter (Reply 68):
COMFIRMED LIST:

Auleyair
KPWMSpotter
aloges
CrimsonNL
ndebelebev
mxp
British747
zululima
Vendenheuvel
MadameConcorde
Dc1015
SC15
SwissCanuck +1
DUSint

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MAYBE LIST:

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COMFIRMED FOR DC10 Sightseeing Flight

24th 0900 BG 2:
British747

24th 1200 BG 4:
Auleyair
DUSint

24th 1500 BG 8 (Last Sightseeing flight):
SC15
MadameConcorde
SC15

23rd 0900: BG 2:
CrimsonNL
mxp
vendenheuvel

23rd 1200: BG 4:
KPWMSpotter
aloges

23rd 1500: BG 8:
Dc1015

22nd 0900: BG 2

22nd 1200: BG 4
Dc1015
SwissCanuck +1

22nd 1500: BG 8
ndebelebev

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Outbound Flight

Auleyair DUB-MAN EI202 06:30-07:30 A320
KPWMSpotter ATL-YUL-AMS-MAN arriving 10:00 2/22 (CR7, MD-11!, 738)
aloges not booked

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Inbound Flight

Auleyair BHX-DUB EI277 19:20-20:20 A320
KPWMSpotter MAN-ATL departing 10:05 2/24 (763)
aloges not booked

------------------------------------------------------------
Hotel

KPWMSpotter: Hotel Britannia Birmingham
Auleyair -> 22nd -> Radisson Blu Manchester Airport
23rd -> Not Comfirm yet (Hotel in BHX)
SwissCanuck+1 -> Night of 21st -> Downtown Birmingham hotel

MadameConcorde · Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:20 pm

Quoting DUSint (Reply 76):
Anyone believes there will still be any saftey-cards left on the Monday-flights?

There will have to be enough for the number of passengers on board or they will not be able to do the flights.

That is for every flight including all scenic flights. They will need to have the safety cards for as long as they fly the aircraft. The very last flight is a different story. I suppose the flight after the Monday BG8 will be a ferry flight to some aviation museum with only a few people and guests on board.

Therefore it wouldn't be wise to take out safety cards until the very last scenic flight - maybe.
This is a Bangladesh airline so maybe their policy is uptight.

DUSint · Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:33 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 77):
There will have to be enough for the number of passengers on board or they will not be able to do the flights.

Thanks for the detailed description. I am sure you are right.
However, the intention of my comment was nothing more than to add some humor.
I am not a collector of saftey-cards - I am collecting memories. And furthermore, I am booked on Monday myself...

PlymSpotter · Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:03 pm

Quoting DUSint (Reply 76):
Updated:

You updated the wrong list

Dan

MadameConcorde · Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:20 pm

Quoting DUSint (Reply 78):
I am not a collector of saftey-cards - I am collecting memories. And furthermore, I am booked on Monday myself...

Good. We can organize a meet-up at the airport before we go on our respective flights.

I just hope the Biman flyer will make it to Birmingham and it can take us around for our joy rides!!!!

debonair · Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:43 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 74):
CONFIRMED FOR DC10 Sightseeing Flights
24th 1500 BG 8 (Last Sightseeing flight):
MadameConcorde
SC15
PlymSpotter

...and debonair.

@MadameConcorde
Again, any special T-Shirts for this event printed yet?

MadameConcorde · Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:06 am

Quoting debonair (Reply 81):

@MadameConcorde
Again, any special T-Shirts for this event printed yet?

There is too little advance notice for designing and printing a T shirt this time around. Also I am doing this as a day trip 5.30 AM to midnight with all the different flights and trains so it won't be easy.

Will see what else I can think of.

[Edited 2014-01-17 01:07:05]

cedarjet · Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:42 am

On the subject of t-shirts, I understand Biman are planning to have something on sale themselves.

And Madame, I have long been a fan of your style and your politics but I must argue with this:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 75):
Just a warning, Biman is a terrible airline. Don't take them for a long haul, the CGP-DAC run isn't too bad, but expect terrible delays and bad service (though on a short flight the service doesn't matter).

Whoever said it (I know it's from FlyerTalk, not you) isn't worth quoting and are showing their ignorance; I have flown Biman at least twenty times in the last two years (mostly DC-10, but also 737-800, F-28 and A310) around Asia and the Persian Gulf and every flight has been on time, it's not the 1980s anymore but people love negative stereotypes even if they bear no relation to reality.

In addition, the cabin crew have been incredibly friendly and welcoming every single time, always a smile and a kind word, and you can't walk past a galley without someone offering you a cup of tea. If only airlines in the west had the same punctuality and service ethic.

So please forget the old cliches about Biman, yes we all remember seeing a DC-10 in the corner of the airport with the engine covers off and the top line on the Flight Information Screen showing yesterday's BG flight not yet departed - but seriously, that was twenty years ago.

MadameConcorde · Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:55 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 83):
So please forget the old cliches about Biman, yes we all remember seeing a DC-10 in the corner of the airport with the engine covers off and the top line on the Flight Information Screen showing yesterday's BG flight not yet departed - but seriously, that was twenty years ago.

Thank you for all the good news and yes... I remember 20 years ago...

Skyeurope · Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:51 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 83):
- but seriously, that was twenty years ago.

No it wasn't. In 2012 my AUH-DAC on DC-10 S2-ACO was more than 10 hours late. In the week after there was some severe chaos as well, with some flights being late for around 24 hours.

Right now the operation seems to be very stable with almost no delays, though.

MadameConcorde · Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:01 pm

I don't know Birmingham airport (yet).

Is it easy to watch tarmac operations, take offs and landings from inside the terminal?

Can we easily swap gates going from one to another with our BG boarding passes? I suppose it will all be the same gate for all the scenic tour flights. Does the Flybe lounge have runway/apron views?

I will be getting in early enough to be able to watch a couple of other scenic flights take-offs and landings before the final scenic flight on the Monday afternoon.

Would allow me some pictures.

Any comments or advice on this will be appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.

DUSint · Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:53 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 86):
I don't know Birmingham airport (yet).

Is it easy to watch tarmac operations, take offs and landings from inside the terminal?

Me too. Very good question.
It would be nice and helpful to get some advice from the local aviation enthusiasts in this forum.

The only info from the official airport website is this:
http://www.birminghamairport.co.uk/u...lities2/aircraft-viewing-area.aspx
As far as I understand it, the area is located outdoors "only".
Per google maps / street view I would say it's on the southerly end of the runway.

Mickbhx · Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:30 pm

As a BHX local, there are very limited photo opportunities within the terminal. A free bus to Long Stay Car Park 1 is your best bet, get off in the "D" zone of the car park and this will give you reasonable views over the apron and runway. For the more adventurous, get on the bus towards Birmingham (service # 900) - they run every 20 minutes and get off opposite the Holiday Inn at the Cargo Terminal. Journey time is about 10 minutes, fare £1.80. Head into the Cargo Terminal area, towards the far end is a NCP multi storey car park. The top floor gives good views of the terminal / runway, especially after midday and probably the best bet for photography. This is where I intend to do my photography over that weekend.
There is a good website at: www.flyintobhx.co.uk which you may find helpful.

Mick

bennett123 · Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:21 pm

A couple of quick questions.

The viewing area seems to be landings only, is this correct?.

How do NCP feel about spotters.

Are there any good spots on the Elmdon side, as lighting could be an issue, especially later in the day.

Thanks for the heads up.

Mickbhx · Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:38 pm

NCP don't appear to be bothered by spotters, until the runway extension works started, the official viewing area was in the Long Stay car park. Light is an issue for landing shots on 33, but not for taxiing shots on the apron. Here, the issue is the height of the security fence. There are higher parts of the car park were shots over the fence may be possible without steps, but you will need a lens in the region of 300mm. The Elmdon side is referred to in my previous post (cargo terminal). If you refer to the website I mentioned previously, some of the photos are taken from Long Stay 1.

HT · Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:44 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 89):
The viewing area seems to be landings only, is this correct?.

With a single runway in operation direction of operations depend on winds.

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 89):
How do NCP feel about spotters.

Dedicated area with park benches available there which is frequented by locals and visiting spotters; can be reached on foot from the terminal within minutes - no need to use / wait for shuttle bus if the weather is fine.
-HT

dba4u · Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:04 pm

Fiiiinally I found a credit card K-Bank would accept...

DC-10 here I come

COMFIRMED LIST:

Auleyair
KPWMSpotter
aloges
CrimsonNL
ndebelebev
mxp
British747
zululima
Vendenheuvel
MadameConcorde
Dc1015
SC15
SwissCanuck +1
DUSint
dba4u

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MAYBE LIST:

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COMFIRMED FOR DC10 Sightseeing Flight

24th 0900 BG 2:
British747

24th 1200 BG 4:
Auleyair
DUSint

24th 1500 BG 8 (Last Sightseeing flight):
SC15
MadameConcorde

23rd 0900: BG 2:
CrimsonNL
mxp
vendenheuvel

23rd 1200: BG 4:
KPWMSpotter
aloges
dba4u

23rd 1500: BG 8:
Dc1015

22nd 0900: BG 2

22nd 1200: BG 4
Dc1015
SwissCanuck +1

22nd 1500: BG 8
ndebelebev

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Outbound Flight

Auleyair DUB-MAN EI202 06:30-07:30 A320
KPWMSpotter ATL-YUL-AMS-MAN arriving 10:00 2/22 (CR7, MD-11!, 738)
aloges not booked

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Inbound Flight

Auleyair BHX-DUB EI277 19:20-20:20 A320
KPWMSpotter MAN-ATL departing 10:05 2/24 (763)
aloges not booked

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Hotel

KPWMSpotter: Hotel Britannia Birmingham
Auleyair -> 22nd -> Radisson Blu Manchester Airport
23rd -> Not Comfirm yet (Hotel in BHX)
SwissCanuck+1 -> Night of 21st -> Downtown Birmingham hotel

bennett123 · Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:17 am

I am on BG2 on Saturday 22nd.

BritishB747 · Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:33 am

COMFIRMED LIST:

Auleyair
KPWMSpotter
aloges
CrimsonNL
ndebelebev
mxp
BritishB747
zululima
Vendenheuvel
MadameConcorde
Dc1015
SC15
SwissCanuck +1
DUSint
dba4u

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MAYBE LIST:

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COMFIRMED FOR DC10 Sightseeing Flight

24th 0900 BG 2:
BritishB747

24th 1200 BG 4:
Auleyair
DUSint

24th 1500 BG 8 (Last Sightseeing flight):
SC15
MadameConcorde

23rd 0900: BG 2:
CrimsonNL
mxp
vendenheuvel

23rd 1200: BG 4:
KPWMSpotter
aloges
dba4u

23rd 1500: BG 8:
Dc1015

22nd 0900: BG 2
bennett123

22nd 1200: BG 4
Dc1015
SwissCanuck +1

22nd 1500: BG 8
ndebelebev

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Outbound Flight

Auleyair DUB-MAN EI202 06:30-07:30 A320
KPWMSpotter ATL-YUL-AMS-MAN arriving 10:00 2/22 (CR7, MD-11!, 738)
aloges not booked
BritishB747 - Not Booked (Possibly British Rail)

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Inbound Flight

Auleyair BHX-DUB EI277 19:20-20:20 A320
KPWMSpotter MAN-ATL departing 10:05 2/24 (763)
aloges not booked
BritishB747 - BHX-EDI 24/02/14 BE849 1450-1610 DHC-8 Q400 (I think)

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Hotel

KPWMSpotter: Hotel Britannia Birmingham
Auleyair -> 22nd -> Radisson Blu Manchester Airport
23rd -> Not Comfirm yet (Hotel in BHX)
SwissCanuck+1 -> Night of 21st -> Downtown Birmingham hotel
BritishB747 -> 23/02/14 No Booking (Probably Travelodge Birmingham Airport)

conrad · Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:19 pm

Anyone booked on the 9am am Monday Morning flight? Coming innen Sunday afternoon with Flybe from Dus,Stalingrad overnight in the Novotel and retuning at about 5pm to Dus with Flybe.

bennett123 · Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:33 pm

I think you mean "staying in the Novotel".

conrad · Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:54 pm

Yes,stupid auto-correction.

conrad · Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:58 pm

Does anyone know, if the Travellodge or the Novote have rooms with Tarmac view, as the Radisson Blu in Man has?

mxp · Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:00 pm

Im booked on sunday 9.00 flight
will arrive friday evening on lh from fra at 22.05
Will leave monday morning on lh to fra at 9.15
Will stay at ibis hotel birmingham airport
I dont know how to add my flights to the list sorry

alberto

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