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Best Chinese Airline?

Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:40 pm

Which is the best Chinese airline?
It seems that they all have improved a lot!
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:38 pm

How do you define best?

Network, aircraft, premium product etc?

Overall, I would rate them larger ones in following order based on service onboard.

1) Hainan
2) Air China
3) China Southern
4) China Eastern
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:26 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):

1) Hainan
2) Air China
3) China Southern
4) China Eastern

Agreed, domestically Hainan should be the best in terms of inflight serivces and hardware (i.e. the planes),
however their route network is not as extensive as other Big3.
 
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:13 pm

I have traveled extensively in China on holidays over the past 15 years. Six trips in total of an average four weeks each. My summary:
(1) China Southern
(2) China Eastern (and closing fast)
(3) daylight
(4) more daylight
(5) Air China (yes, they have been THAT bad in my experiences -sorry, 777Jet... I know you disagree with me!)
I haven't flown on Hainan nor any of the LCCs such as Lucky Air or Spring.
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:36 pm

Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 2):
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):

1) Hainan
2) Air China
3) China Southern
4) China Eastern

Agreed, domestically Hainan should be the best in terms of inflight serivces and hardware (i.e. the planes),
however their route network is not as extensive as other Big3.

I'd agree with that!

Hainan @ #1 based on a very superior service despite their less-extensive route network.
Air China @ #2 because of a combination of service / product (the addition of new 77Ws and now 748s is helping their in flight experience in terms of comfort) / and network.
China Southern @ #3 because it appears to be improving more quickly than China Eastern.
Which leaves China Eastern @ #4 -  
Quoting bunumuring (Reply 3):
(5) Air China (yes, they have been THAT bad in my experiences -sorry, 777Jet... I know you disagree with me!)
I haven't flown on Hainan nor any of the LCCs such as Lucky Air or Spring.

Correct!

I, in fact, see loads of daylight between Air China @ #2 in my rankings and #3 & #4  
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:47 pm

Wouldn't CX count as a Chinese carrier?
 
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:08 am

Quoting infinit (Reply 5):
Wouldn't CX count as a Chinese carrier?

I think we are just talking about the Mainland China based carriers.

But... if we started a new ranking that included Hong Kong and Taiwan (for the fun of it), I have no doubt that the ratings would change when the likes of Cathay Pacific, EVA Air and China Airlines enter the mix!

I would guess...

1 Cathay Pacific
2 Hainan
3 EVA
4 Air China
5 China Airlines
6 China Southern
7 China Eastern

That is my 2 cents of a guess 
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:35 am

It's as Laxintl said, what is your criteria?

I used all four airlines mentioned above and never felt any difference as regards to the level of service.
CA and CZ have an impressive network. I also think CA's lounges in PEK are a little bit better than CZ's and MU's lounges.
 
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:35 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 4):
Hainan @ #1 based on a very superior service despite their less-extensive route network.
Air China @ #2 because of a combination of service / product (the addition of new 77Ws and now 748s is helping their in flight experience in terms of comfort) / and network.

Completely agree

Quoting infinit (Reply 5):
Wouldn't CX count as a Chinese carrier?

Chinese carrier normally referr to carriers based in mainland PRC, excluding those from Hong Kong; Macau and Taiwan
 
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:18 am

From my experience the major issue for MU/FM,CA and CZ is the inconsistency of their product. For example MU/FM in J:
A332 lie flat seat with a good IFE
A340 really old business class
B767 (FM), old seats some even with pull down screen and overhead projector
A320 some have IFE and in-seat power in J, some not
A330 for the trunk routes e.g. SHA – BJS, rather good angle flat seat

You also hardly recognize any consistence cooperate branding / identity on the plane

So it seems they just install better seats in new aircrafts but no upgrade of existing ones.

Lounge… well not to mention. I like the idea that you get for remote stands bus transfer a separate mini bus for J&F pax.
At PVG for MU even for aerobridge gates which are far away from the lounge.

On board service really improved, not on a CX/SQ level, but nearly equal to e.g. AF standards, except the food of course….
Their online services getting better, but still not on a international level….
 
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:17 am

CA seems to have improved A LOT lately
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RE: Best Chinese Airline?

Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:19 pm

Surprised to see nobody bring up XiamenAir. They may not be #1, but in my many flights with them I can safely say they should be in the top 3. I've always had very pleasant experiences, by Chinese air travel standards, with MF - on-time, aircraft cleanliness, and crew interactions.

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