On plane finder (just checked now) it shows that UA is operating a flight from LGW-DTW and says it operates once a week on sunday. I had no clew that UA flew from LGW to DTW or am i getting something wrong hear?Does UA fly this route or is this just a charter?
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RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
Its bringing the Detriot Lions back from London as they played the Atlanta Falcons today in London.
RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
Coincidentally, when UA acquired PA's LHR slots and routes, one of the authority's they got in the deal was for DET-LON. I believe they eventually sold it to NW.
RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
| Quoting UA444 (Reply 2): Coincidentally, when UA acquired PA's LHR slots and routes, one of the authority's they got in the deal was for DET-LON. I believe they eventually sold it to NW. |
They may have gotten that route in the LHR transaction but they never flew that route....PA continued to fly it into LGW and when DL bought PAs European routes they got and flew the route for a while before selling it to NW. UA also flew MIA-LHR for a season or two before returning the route authority to PA who flew MIA-LGW.
pmUA served LHR from: SEA, SFO, LAX, DEN, ORD, MIA, IAD, EWR, BOS and JFK at various times.
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RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
| Quoting UA444 (Reply 2): Coincidentally, when UA acquired PA's LHR slots and routes, one of the authority's they got in the deal was for DET-LON. I believe they eventually sold it to NW. |
No, Delta acquired DET-LON directly from PanAm, ran it for a while (with a Cleveland origination?), and then sold it to NW.
http://ec.europa.eu/competition/mergers/cases/decisions/m130_en.pdf
UA acquired other PanAm USA-London routes, however.
RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
| Quoting UA444 (Reply 5): Yes I know they never flew it. It also took them awhile to be able to fly to Heathrow from Chicago. |
Yup ORD, BOS and DEN were not part of the route authorities that they acquired from PA....they got those quite a bit later.
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RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
I'm confused I thought they flew out on this flight...
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/V...0/history/20141021/0100Z/KDTW/EGKK which seems to be corroborated by this article here
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...etroit_lions_make_grueling_tr.html
But there is also this outbound United flight of the same number a few days later...
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...7/history/20141024/0120Z/KDTW/EGKK
Does anybody know if there were two charters by chance?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/V...0/history/20141021/0100Z/KDTW/EGKK which seems to be corroborated by this article here
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...etroit_lions_make_grueling_tr.html
But there is also this outbound United flight of the same number a few days later...
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...7/history/20141024/0120Z/KDTW/EGKK
Does anybody know if there were two charters by chance?
RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
The UA flight tonight is on a 752. Wouldn't be surprised if thats the "family" flight. I'd be stunned if that was the team charter.
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RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
| Quoting MIflyer12 (Reply 4): No, Delta acquired DET-LON directly from PanAm, ran it for a while (with a Cleveland origination?), and then sold it to NW. |
DL initially operated the route DTW-LGW but then added a CLE tag after acquiring a contract with BP (which had recently acquired SOHIO). The route was operated with a A310.
I don't know the rest of the route's history, but in late 1994, it was operating as MCO-DTW-LGW with an L-1011-500. It ended soon after when the rights were sold to NW.
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RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
| Quoting toltommy (Reply 9): |
This does appear to be the team charter, the flight number UA1837 is the Lions charter number.
It looks like the lions usually take a 753 but as that could not make it across the pond they might have not wanted to pay for a 767 (or one was not available)
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RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
| Quoting N104UA (Reply 11): This does appear to be the team charter, the flight number UA1837 is the Lions charter number. It looks like the lions usually take a 753 but as that could not make it across the pond they might have not wanted to pay for a 767 (or one was not available) |
It's not the team charter but rather a friends/family flight. As noted above, the aircraft operated DTW-LGW late Thursday while the team traveled on a VA 787 days earlier.
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RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
| Quoting CompensateMe (Reply 12): It's not the team charter but rather a friends/family flight. As noted above, the aircraft operated DTW-LGW late Thursday while the team traveled on a VA 787 days earlier. |
Lions team flew DTW-LGW on a VS A346....
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/V...0/history/20141021/0100Z/KDTW/EGKK
Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
Team went out on G-VBUG VS A346 , I believe the UA 75W was transporting press/officials etc
RE: UA Operates LGW-DTW?
| Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 15): Surprising DL didnt snag this contract |
They did in a way...
Don't they have a minority stake in VS?
Where did you get UA was doing LGW-DTW?
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