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A350 "Raccoon eyes" question

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:36 am

I have read reports that the black surround on the A350 flight deck windows is not just a gimmick but part of the installation process and not, therefore, an optional addition. I have seen many photographs of the flight deck windows already installed in unpainted aircraft without the black surround so why could this not be added when the aircraft is painted?

Early on in the A350 build I saw a rendition as to what it would look like without the racoon eyes and I must admit that I liked it. So could an airline request that the black be omitted?

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Re: A350 "Raccoon eyes" question

Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:47 am

It is purely an Airbus marketing gimmick. They have applied the same to the the new A330NEO. No technical reason for it; merely a hark back to the original A350 window style in artist conceptions. I think it looks OK on the A350 on certain liveries, but on the A330 it just looks cheap and tacky. The first time an airline repaints an A350 I bet they will be gone. Airbus can't force them to paint this area black. Just like Boeing could not force airlines to paint the 787 engine nacelles a specific colour.
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Re: A350 "Raccoon eyes" question

Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:22 am

An airline livery might not need it......so it depends on customer choice.
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Re: A350 "Raccoon eyes" question

Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:44 pm

Respectfully, it has already been discussed at length. You may find an interesting discussion here that could answer your questions:

viewtopic.php?t=575333
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Re: A350 "Raccoon eyes" question

Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:12 am

I thought it was anti-glare in nature, similar to TWA's old scheme on the 747...
 
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Re: A350 "Raccoon eyes" question

Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:27 am

SCAT15F wrote:
I thought it was anti-glare in nature, similar to TWA's old scheme on the 747...


Unlike the 747, 330, etc, which have a little "step" below the windshield the 350 nose is a continuous curve, so I don't think you would get reflections in the same way.
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Re: A350 "Raccoon eyes" question

Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:53 am

SCAT15F wrote:
I thought it was anti-glare in nature, similar to TWA's old scheme on the 747...


Anti-glare paint comes in a much broader variety of colors than it did back in the 60s-70s. You're not going to see black anti-glare paint on airliners today, for the most part.
 
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Re: A350 "Raccoon eyes" question

Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:33 am

It has to do with the way the windows are actually fitted, which is different on the A350 than other models. The black surrounds (which personally I find attractive) are in black and black only to simply the inventory requirements and have been developed since then into a decorative item.
 
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Re: A350 "Raccoon eyes" question

Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:41 am

jeffh747 wrote:
Respectfully, it has already been discussed at length. You may find an interesting discussion here that could answer your questions:

viewtopic.php?t=575333


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