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jetwet1
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baggage loading question

Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:12 am

We were at LAS today taking a WN flight, the wife came up with a question I couldn't answer.

When loading the bags the baggage handlers were placing each bag "face" down on the loading belt, why all face down ?
 
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Starlionblue
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Re: baggage loading question

Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:12 am

Guessing that this way most handles end up in the same direction for the guy in the hold.
 
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asqx
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Re: baggage loading question

Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:29 am

So they don't come sliding back down, as sometimes happens when the back side is down, especially with semi-recessed wheels.
 
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Re: baggage loading question

Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:46 am

That's exactly right, wheel side down leads to them all sliding right back down. Plus the smooth sides of the bag will slip regardless, so you put it upside down so the zippers, and other pouches etc will grab hold.

Now strollers on the other hand are a different sort of nightmare altogether.
 
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Re: baggage loading question

Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:47 am

At the airline I work at, the only rule (which isn't enforced, but most still do so), is handles facing the next person. However, as for stacking in a hold, face down usually works better, gives a cleaner surface to stack the next bag on. Most handlers know this, and pass the bags up in this manner to make it as easy as possible for the next guy.
 
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Re: baggage loading question

Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:53 am

Face down and handles out.

Face down so the bags don't slide down the belt and it provides a much flatter surface for stacking.

Handles out so you have something to grip when unloading.
 
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Re: baggage loading question

Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:12 am

How often is each Bag touched when not using ULDs ?
 
jetwet1
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Re: baggage loading question

Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:56 pm

asqx wrote:
So they don't come sliding back down, as sometimes happens when the back side is down, especially with semi-recessed wheels.


Thank you, that makes perfect sense.
 
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Re: baggage loading question

Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:47 pm

WIederling wrote:
How often is each Bag touched when not using ULDs ?


Domestic flight?
1- At checkin when it's tagged and sent down the belt and through security
2- Coming off the outbound belt onto a bag cart in the bag room
3- Off the bag cart onto the belt loader
4- Off the belt loader into the pit
5- Depending on aircraft, it's either stacked now, or tossed towards the front or back
6- Stacked
7- Unstacked
8-Either onto a belt loader or tossed towards the door
9-On the belt loader
10-Onto a bag cart
11- Onto the inbound baggage belt to the carousel
 
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Re: baggage loading question

Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:12 am

diverted wrote:
WIederling wrote:
How often is each Bag touched when not using ULDs ?


Domestic flight?
1- At checkin when it's tagged and sent down the belt and through security
2- Coming off the outbound belt onto a bag cart in the bag room
3- Off the bag cart onto the belt loader
4- Off the belt loader into the pit
5- Depending on aircraft, it's either stacked now, or tossed towards the front or back
6- Stacked
7- Unstacked
8-Either onto a belt loader or tossed towards the door
9-On the belt loader
10-Onto a bag cart
11- Onto the inbound baggage belt to the carousel



Between Step 1 & 2 on Diverted's explanation is the bag going thru TSA screening (which the poster describes as "security"). That happens between the check-in belt and the BMU (aka Baggage Make Up - the bagroom). TSA will break locks and zippers thru this process if they feel a bag has to be looked over. The bagroom guys and gals get bags that the zippers weren't entirely closed, or a TSA lock has been broken.
If you are in a large hub airport, after screening, each bag gets encoded or scanned again so it go to the proper pier in the BMU where they are grouped together to be taken planside.

Step 4: The bags will be loaded according to plan in whatever pit the CLP (Cargo Load Plan) has the designated them for weight and balance purposes. Mainly the Priority bags and the Transfer bags are segregated so they can be easily accessed upon downloading (Step 7 thru 9)
That's why sometimes if you are looking at an airplane being turned, you may several several runners with strings of carts. One set for the Priority Bags; another set for the Transfer or Interline bags; and the last for the City or Local bags to taken to the carousel. And at most airlines, they are all scanned between touch points so the bag can be tracked. With this technology, you can track your bag thru an app.
 
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Re: baggage loading question

Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:53 pm

"TSA will break locks and zippers thru this process if they feel a bag has to be looked over."

Weird. Where I work, you have to have the passenger present for a Level 4 search.

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