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Flight BF703 RUN-ORY

Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:53 am

Was looking at flights to and from Europe to Reunion last night.As I expected there was 744s as well as 777s flying from Paris then I noticed bf707.
Im aware the a333 has been upgraded extensively but I didn't expect to see this type on this route.

With a flight time of over 11 hours what is the maximal endurance for this type, and how many pax would be on board?
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Re: Flight BF703 RUN-ORY

Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:35 am

AFAIK, BF operate brand new A330 with 242T MTOW and center tank enabled, so it can take more fuel.

I have no data at the moment, but I’m pretty sure this variant could do this route with full house ie. 300+ PAX - especially that most likely they carry no cargo.
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Re: Flight BF703 RUN-ORY

Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:47 am

Thomas Cook also operates flights from Manchester to Mauritius with its A330-200 which carries more than 300 passengers.
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Re: Flight BF703 RUN-ORY

Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:50 pm

BF has pretty high density A333, with W28 and Y350 which is total of 378 seats, for a flight av. duration of 11 hours and distance of approx 10,000km
I guess it's still inside the limitations
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Re: Flight BF703 RUN-ORY

Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:06 am

The A330 is operated by several airlines from East Asia to Europe, on 11-12 hour sectors, e.g. SK HKG-CPH. Not a problem for the high MTOW variants fitted with a center tank and a gaseous passenger oxygen system.

If you flew the plane with no payload, catering or cabin crew, you could probably keep going for a good 18 hours in the A330*. The question for an airline is, "What is the max sector time with an economically viable payload?" And the answer for the A330 is probably "around 12 hours". Once you go over that, you need an A350. And before the A350 existed, you needed an A340).

*Back of the envelope: Total fuel capacity 109 tons. Allowing for 5 tons of reserves, that leaves 104 tons. Average burn of 5.75 tons per hour on a max endurance flight with no payload gives 18.1 hours, and a still air distance around 8600nm.
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