jakubz
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B787 Engine Identification

Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:41 pm

I'm back and looking at 787 engines now! This one is pretty short and sweet.

On the B787, how can I tell a Trent 1000 apart from a GEnx-1B?

No points for saying look at the logo on the engine. I can't make it too easy on you.
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KingOrGod
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:52 pm

RR have a vent just forward of the T/R cascade...
 
stratclub
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:05 pm

Look at the spinners. Also look at EICAS. A Roller will have am N-3 and a Genx will not.


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acjbbj
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:20 pm

RR have a smaller and pointier exhaust cone.
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jakubz
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 am

stratclub wrote:
Look at the spinners. Also look at EICAS. A Roller will have am N-3 and a Genx will not.


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Uh, I'm guessing you tried to post a link to a photo. I just got a wall of text.... Would you be willing to post the link again?

Btw, thank you everybody for your replies.
KORD>RJAA>KORD day trip? Why not! The beauty of non-reving.
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LH707330
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:49 am

GE has bigger reverser fairings, carbon fan blades with titanium leading edges (black with silver-ish color), GE has oil vent pipe in the middle of the exhaust cone where the RR has a small drain mast, otherwise they look pretty similar.
 
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:54 am

LH707330 wrote:
GE has bigger reverser fairings, carbon fan blades with titanium leading edges (black with silver-ish color), GE has oil vent pipe in the middle of the exhaust cone where the RR has a small drain mast, otherwise they look pretty similar.

Unfortunately? Those are differences No Non Tech would be able to Discern,
 
Runway28L
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:15 am

Quickest way for me is that most of the Trent 1000 engines have the RR logo on the side, whereas most of the GEnx ones do not have the GE logo.

Everyone else pretty much nailed the other visual differences such as the spinner and fan blades.
 
LH707330
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:09 pm

Here's a quick way to know: if it's in the air, it's GE-powered, because the RR birds are grounded :D
 
acjbbj
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:25 pm

LH707330 wrote:
Here's a quick way to know: if it's in the air, it's GE-powered, because the RR birds are grounded :D


Ouch!
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stratclub
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Re: B787 Engine Identification

Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:18 pm

When Roller's start up, they just sound different then a GENX. Good or bad, I have no clue. But I do know what sound puts a smile on my face. Seriously an N-3? try to top that GE or P&W.

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