OKCDCA wrote:I don’t think it’s gone. Looking at FlightAware just now, UA 2418 (EWR) and DL 1503 (DEN) are performing the loop this morning. But B6 224 (JFK) took the more southerly route. Must be based on what ATC feels is best.
Cactusjuba wrote:It's now called the ORKA departure. Any routing that takes you Northwesterly/over LAS you get this routing. Westerly courses/ over PSP usually get the DOTTS departure, which heads over the water and makes landfall over Seal Beach.
phllax wrote:I've been flying US/AA and B6 321's out of LAX since US began sending them in 2001, and in that time I've only had 1 US 321 able to do the Loop, and it struggled on climb power to get to the 10,000 ft threshold needed to cross the beach after the turn that he threw it back to T/O setting for about 30 seconds. (I asked after we landed.)
strfyr51 wrote:OKCDCA wrote:I don’t think it’s gone. Looking at FlightAware just now, UA 2418 (EWR) and DL 1503 (DEN) are performing the loop this morning. But B6 224 (JFK) took the more southerly route. Must be based on what ATC feels is best.[/
Or? It could be just up to departure control to reduce area congestion.
russyyz wrote:I love the names ATC areas use for various SIDS and STARS. I would have thought, though, that the ORCKA departure would have been the one to go over Seal Beach.
747Whale wrote:the SEAL BEACH 8 ... [is] flown for both eastbound and westbound departures
timz wrote:Westbound from LAX? Off of runways 6/7, you mean?
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