GalaxyFlyer wrote:F/A could be considered crew and that’d be legal, but who’d do that? Flight attendants on bizjets are crew.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:No, it’s the same thing, crew is crew. There’s no requirement for a F/A, one can be designated. I doubt any carrier would put a F/A on nineteen seater, but under your conditions I think it would possible. I think Jet Suite has a flight attendant on their ERJ-135
jacrowley48 wrote:I believe Wings West at one time had a F/A on their Metroliner service. Sat in a passenger seat and stored a small cooler in the small carryon compartment.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:Depends on the specific type—give us a type we have a better answer. On a Beech 1900D, maximum seating, including crew, is 21; so 19 pax plus 2 crew.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:Decision lies with a customer requesting the STC, be willing to pay for it and then Harbin designs and gets it approved.
I’d bet a shuttle version of the CRJ-200 would be easier, cheaper and more acceptable being a jet.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:I predict the sky will not darkened by Harbin Y12F. I don’t you got 5,000 per month lease, but that says it all.
Soupupnorth wrote:The harbin Y-12 is a interesting plane. My former boss was supposed to be the launch customer here in the USA. He traveled to China to see the plane where it’s manufactured and it is incredible. It’s a town built around a factory that produces many different products including tractors. A demo model made its way over to North America 3 years or so ago. He flew it down from Canada to KFXE with harbin’s test pilot and engineers and I got to climb all over that thing when it arrived. All the components of the plane are western world products such as Pratt & Whitney engines Cleveland brakes, Garmin avionics etc. the plane looked great but it does have some craftsmanship issues. The cargo door is heavy and likes to sag. Inspection openings were covered by speed tape as covers went missing. Besides that the interior was quite large inside considering. To me the plane looks like it might have taken design cues from the twin otter and a Let.
113312 wrote:The Approved Flight Manual and certification stipulate the minimum crew (flight crew). The number of passenger seats determines if and how many flight attendants are required. 18 or fewer passenger seats does not require a flight attendant. It does not matter how large the plane is. We used to have 18 passenger seats on the upper deck of B747-200F and no flight attendant. 19-50 passenger seats would require at least one flight attendant.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:Despite many opinions in error, the answer to 95% of aviation questions is, “it depends”.
I reread the TCDS, you’re correct, 17+2. I took the 19 seats to be the passengers not including the crew, but I’m not certain.
BravoOne wrote:Use to carry a FA onboard a 19 seat DH Heron between BUR/LGB and LAS. Sorry no pics, nor do I recall where she sat? (1963)
BravoOne wrote:You are correct and you had to step over the wing spar as you moved forward. This was an operation dedictaed to one of the hotels in LAS, so it was not your typical commuter operation. Pre 135 days. he Hacienda Hotel ran a bunch of airliners uo to and including the 749 Constellation before the then CAB put them out of business.
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