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The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:41 am

https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a350-eye-mask/

It has been given many names but here is the reason for the blacked out cockpit window frame on the A350. Wait till you read why the A330NEO has it.
 
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:55 am

I've heard of several reasons for the raccoon mask and for me, the maintenance issue is probably the one that makes the most sense. The windshield frame doesn't have to be painted to a customer-specific color before installation and replacement and scratches incurred during such are easily touched up.

As for the 'thermal harmonisation' effect, I suppose that during the day the black color would absorb sun ray heat and warm up the airframe around the windshields during day flying which would reduce the temperature delta between the glass and surrounding structure, but I doubt that effect would be of any real significance.

I've also heard of the glare reduction effect, but I call BS on that. The nose slopes down from the windshield pretty steeply and I can't see how any light would be able to reflect inside from any direction.

At the end of the day, I just think that it Airbus kept it mostly for PR purposes because it makes the airplane look 'cool' and stand out a bit...
Case in point for me; my father, who knows little about airplanes, was able to recognize an A350 parked outside the terminal just by looking at the windshield mask.
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:00 am

I think that real reason is special protection film on the windows on a320, a330 and a350 family. Iberia a320neo has blacked windows while a321neo Wizz Air doesn’t have.
 
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:41 am

It's a long article to say it's so they only need to worry about one color of paint for touch-ups after windscreen replacements.

But I guess one sentence wouldn't be enough to put a bunch of ads around.
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:09 am

While it's an actual feature on the A350 and on the A330neo, I think that the racoon mask on the A320neo family is only for aesthetical purpose and visual coherence with the A350 sub-fleet (Iberia).

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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:28 am

One great looking airplane...the mask does lend a sense if drama..no matter the technical reasons!
 
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:57 pm

What's up with the differences in the sensors on the nose? The Virgin 350 has three directly above the nose cone, the British Airways bird has none. Different options?

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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:17 pm

diverted wrote:
What's up with the differences in the sensors on the nose? The Virgin 350 has three directly above the nose cone, the British Airways bird has none. Different options?

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Good eye.

Improvements in the avionics have led to the three side slip indicators under the windshield are no longer necessary. Newer A350s don't have them. I think older ones might have them removed as the avionics are upgraded.

Another hard to spot detail is that the sharklets have been slightly redesigned for more efficiency.
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:00 am

Because everyone looks better with a little bit* of eyeliner on?

*Note I said "a little bit". Completely unsubstantiated studies have shown that one's relative sanity is inversely proportionate to the amount of eyeliner one wears.
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:51 am

TSS wrote:
Completely unsubstantiated studies have shown that one's relative sanity is inversely proportionate to the amount of eyeliner one wears.


That explains a lot, thanks for the hint. ( some fitting samples in day to day "contact" )

apropos:
what kind of Freudian slip gets exposed by the "Norwegian" Livery ? :-)
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:01 am

WIederling wrote:
TSS wrote:
Completely unsubstantiated studies have shown that one's relative sanity is inversely proportionate to the amount of eyeliner one wears.


That explains a lot, thanks for the hint. ( some fitting samples in day to day "contact" )

apropos:
what kind of Freudian slip gets exposed by the "Norwegian" Livery ? :-)
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:00 pm

Intriguing, I had always just assumed it was for glare and style, such as when baseball players wear eye black etc
 
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:28 am

flipdewaf wrote:
WIederling wrote:
TSS wrote:
Completely unsubstantiated studies have shown that one's relative sanity is inversely proportionate to the amount of eyeliner one wears.


That explains a lot, thanks for the hint. ( some fitting samples in day to day "contact" )

apropos:
what kind of Freudian slip gets exposed by the "Norwegian" Livery ? :-)


What has been seen cannot be unseen :shock:

Fred


I'm just glad to know my days of saying "Am I really the only one who sees it?!?" every time I look at a plane in Norwegian's livery are over. :yes:
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:38 am

william wrote:
https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a350-eye-mask/

It has been given many names but here is the reason for the blacked out cockpit window frame on the A350. Wait till you read why the A330NEO has it.


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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:33 pm

They're probably using an old saying:
Any customer can have a window painted any color that he wants so long as it is black (rephrased with one word).

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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:46 am

A350 cockpit windows without the “mask” are b*tt ugly
 
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Re: The reason the A350 has black cockpit window frames

Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:34 pm

arcticcruiser wrote:
A350 cockpit windows without the “mask” are b*tt ugly


But(t) functional : looking out, design stresses, ..
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