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Dark Painted Aircraft Operating Cost

Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:54 am

Do dark colored aircraft cost more to operate? APU working harder or more on the ground to keep the interior cool? Or thermodynamics at higher altitudes? Or am I just overthinking?
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Re: Dark Painted Aircraft Operating Cost

Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:20 am

Dark green European camo on C-5 certainly increased electronic maintenance efforts, presumably cost. Dark colored bizjets, while popular cause all sorts of problems. Sometimes the fuselage twists enough in sun and heat the doors won’t open or won’t close. A dark painted tail on a Global used to twist in the sun enough to slowly cause the need for rudder trim. It was finally understood by analyzing east and west bound legs.

Overall, a bad idea.

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Re: Dark Painted Aircraft Operating Cost

Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:32 am

Why do it? It does look cool. I thought TranStar had the best looking birds out there but if they cause so much trouble, why do it?
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Re: Dark Painted Aircraft Operating Cost

Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:59 am

seb146 wrote:
Why do it? It does look cool. I thought TranStar had the best looking birds out there but if they cause so much trouble, why do it?



Agree, that was a stunning livery
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Re: Dark Painted Aircraft Operating Cost

Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:30 am

Air NZ seems to manage? They have (or at one time had) one of each type in the fleet all black. Including Airbus, Boeing, ATR, Dash, carbon and aluminum, jet and turboprop, long and short haul, whatever. If it were really that bad it would have become very obvious and been abandoned by now.
 
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Re: Dark Painted Aircraft Operating Cost

Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:31 am

seb146 wrote:
Why do it? It does look cool. I thought TranStar had the best looking birds out there but if they cause so much trouble, why do it?


There's a wow factor for sure. Air New Zealand has gotten lots of press over the years for their black liveries. But you're spot on about some of the disadvantages, they get HOT especially on a sunny day. I remember flying UsAir in the late 90's with the navy blue livery it was normal to be asked to open all the overhead vents and close the window shades to keep the cabin cool, even in the fall and spring.
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