Starlionblue wrote:It can grow a lot, but not everywhere. Some areas, e.g. London and New York, are very congested and have been so for decades. ATC improvements help but there is no silver bullet.
Antiquated airport layouts with deep alleys don't help. JFK, for example, would benefit from a more modern taxiway and apron layout.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:As starlionblue stated, the congestion that gets the headlines is heavily concentrated around major cities (only a few of them, too) and on the ground with terminals built for traffic levels of the ‘70s or 80s. Not just the New York and London where it’s expected, Mumbai, Delhi, and Hong Kong can be very busy. The Atlantic crossings are busy during the track system hours and empty at the in-between hours. Fly São Paulo to Tahiti at anytime and very unlikely to see or hear another plane. Altitudes also separate planes. High level operations are popular with bizjets as you are above the airliners until landing anyway. There are vast areas of the globe one can fly for hours and not see another plane.
Starlionblue wrote:Antiquated airport layouts with deep alleys don't help. JFK, for example, would benefit from a more modern taxiway and apron layout.
Lemmy wrote:Starlionblue wrote:Antiquated airport layouts with deep alleys don't help. JFK, for example, would benefit from a more modern taxiway and apron layout.
What does this mean? Is the problem that the alleys are too narrow and can only allow one airplane in our out at a time? I'm always amazed at DEN, for example, how much space there is between terminals. That's a lot of concrete to move around on.
timh4000 wrote:While airport ground operations are also a problem to consider as the need or at least desire for more flights continues to grow, through population growth if nothing else, my query is about airspace in congested areas with multiple large airports. NYC area actually has 4 teterboro while smaller than the main 3 is still large enough to handle planes like the A320. There are other densely populated areas besides the NYC area but that is probably thought of 1st. Our most congested areas, how much more airspace are they capable of handling? ATC and pilots are likely most knowledgeable on what limits there are, how difficult it is becoming during the busiest times of the day.
Technology has helped, I'm fairly certain that in 1960 we wouldn't be able to handle the current amounts of air traffic. And technology will continue to help us in the future. Still, at what point are we simply able to handle no more increase?
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