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United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:27 am

Sitting at HNL waiting for a flight. Watched a group on the ground and on lifts wiping down a United 772 while it was sitting at the gate. They did the entire underside and engines. I have never seen this before in 45 years of travel? Is this something normal for United? Or something normal for HNL??
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:37 am

Very normal. Most aircraft, at least at UAL get washed when they RON in certain stations. I’ve seen it multiple times in LAS as well
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:41 am

f4u wrote:
Sitting at HNL waiting for a flight. Watched a group on the ground and on lifts wiping down a United 772 while it was sitting at the gate. They did the entire underside and engines. I have never seen this before in 45 years of travel? Is this something normal for United? Or something normal for HNL??


Dry washes on RONs at the gate are a pretty normal thing in my experience with another airline, and I assume UA does the same.
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:58 am

Interesting. I can honestly say I have never seen it happen.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:15 am

Happens here at LAX all the time. Seems they have a vendor that comes out and does an aircraft or two on daily basis.
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:16 am

I’ve noticed this with qatar aircraft in Doh. They must wash their planes often, they always look brand new. Even the wheels of the landing gear are usually bright white instead of dirty black / brown like every other airline.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:09 am

Can someone post this thread to AirFrance? :duck:
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:31 am

f4u wrote:
Sitting at HNL waiting for a flight. Watched a group on the ground and on lifts wiping down a United 772 while it was sitting at the gate. They did the entire underside and engines. I have never seen this before in 45 years of travel? Is this something normal for United? Or something normal for HNL??


Before I even opened the thread I was almost certain you were going to say you saw it in HNL. I’ve seen crews wash UA planes a number of times while at the gate there. Never seen this happen anywhere else but I’m sure it does.

Perhaps the frequency of washes in HNL has to do with the salt air? Though I’ve never seen it happen at the other Hawaii stations. Or perhaps it’s simply because the UA WB fleet has longer turn times allowing for washes.

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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:16 pm

f4u wrote:
Sitting at HNL waiting for a flight. Watched a group on the ground and on lifts wiping down a United 772 while it was sitting at the gate. They did the entire underside and engines. I have never seen this before in 45 years of travel? Is this something normal for United? Or something normal for HNL??


There are several hubs and line stations that are exterior dry wash locations, a few of those U.S. locations are HNL, MCO SFO, IAH, TPA, LAX, FLL and IAD just to name a few.
Do to environmental concerns wet washing (where the entire aircraft is washed not just the belly and underside of the engines) and engine washing takes place at specialized locations where the contaminated water is collected and not allowed runoff into storm drains where it could seep into ground water or damage the environment.

Dry washing is absolutely normal.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:29 pm

Believe this was a normal thing at the pre merger CAL. So glad to see this carried over to the new combined company. The investment in appearance is nice and the planes are so much cleaner now than previously. I have seen the wash teams in EWR, IAH and LAX also.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:58 pm

readytotaxi wrote:
Can someone post this thread to AirFrance? :duck:

I sincerely wish they would!!!!
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:00 pm

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Can someone post this thread to AirFrance? :duck:



Haha seriously. The dingiest fleet in the skies!! However I flew F-GSPX and F-GSPJ recently and the first was relatively spotless, and the latter was so clean you’d think she was a brand new bird.
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:04 pm

mcdu wrote:
Believe this was a normal thing at the pre merger CAL. So glad to see this carried over to the new combined company. The investment in appearance is nice and the planes are so much cleaner now than previously. I have seen the wash teams in EWR, IAH and LAX also.


I have to believe that the washes have positive impacts on fuel burn and maintenance costs, though I don’t know if these impacts are large enough to be measurable.
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:33 pm

Saw this in EWR on a 752 a few months ago
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:35 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
mcdu wrote:
Believe this was a normal thing at the pre merger CAL. So glad to see this carried over to the new combined company. The investment in appearance is nice and the planes are so much cleaner now than previously. I have seen the wash teams in EWR, IAH and LAX also.


I have to believe that the washes have positive impacts on fuel burn and maintenance costs, though I don’t know if these impacts are large enough to be measurable.


Its probably enough to pay for the washing crew......and United gets a clean jet that will help it stay nicer longer.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:05 pm

f4u wrote:
Interesting. I can honestly say I have never seen it happen.

You usually fly Air France . . . ?
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:31 pm

readytotaxi wrote:
Can someone post this thread to AirFrance? :duck:



LMFAO!!!! that'll never happen!
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:18 pm

AF said they would love to do that but unfortunately the washers are on strike.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:31 pm

How does one clean an aircraft without water?
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:35 pm

VC10DC10 wrote:
How does one clean an aircraft without water?


Shout it out. (I’m showing my age with that one)
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:47 pm

readytotaxi wrote:
Can someone post this thread to AirFrance? :duck:


The union contract does not allow it. :rotfl:
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:12 pm

VC10DC10 wrote:
How does one clean an aircraft without water?


Dry Mopping or Swiffering it, seems to be as accurate as what I've learned about it.
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:26 pm

readytotaxi wrote:
Can someone post this thread to AirFrance? :duck:

You'd better translate it first then...
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:32 pm

RWA380 wrote:
VC10DC10 wrote:
How does one clean an aircraft without water?


Dry Mopping or Swiffering it, seems to be as accurate as what I've learned about it.



Definitely what they were doing, though interesting they had covers over the tires/wheels like they were trying to protect them from some type of chemicals..
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:38 am

Northpole wrote:
readytotaxi wrote:
Can someone post this thread to AirFrance? :duck:

You'd better translate it first then...

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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:28 pm

f4u wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
VC10DC10 wrote:
How does one clean an aircraft without water?


Dry Mopping or Swiffering it, seems to be as accurate as what I've learned about it.



Definitely what they were doing, though interesting they had covers over the tires/wheels like they were trying to protect them from some type of chemicals..


gIn the over 40 years I've been flying in/out of Honolulu, I've never seen it personally. But thanks for sharing your thoughts, it's an interesting subject & I bet some type of chemicals are used.
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:16 pm

Kno wrote:
I’ve noticed this with qatar aircraft in Doh. They must wash their planes often, they always look brand new. Even the wheels of the landing gear are usually bright white instead of dirty black / brown like every other airline.


Qatar Airways has a crew of around 6 guys on a small truck that drive around the DOH ramp and clean the aircraft when they have time. They start with the wheels and work upwards. All aircraft that stay on the ramp more than about an hour get washed. They have a water tank and a pump on the truck, but don't use a lot of water, mostly guys with wet mops.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:23 pm

Tristarsteve wrote:
Kno wrote:
I’ve noticed this with qatar aircraft in Doh. They must wash their planes often, they always look brand new. Even the wheels of the landing gear are usually bright white instead of dirty black / brown like every other airline.


Qatar Airways has a crew of around 6 guys on a small truck that drive around the DOH ramp and clean the aircraft when they have time. They start with the wheels and work upwards. All aircraft that stay on the ramp more than about an hour get washed. They have a water tank and a pump on the truck, but don't use a lot of water, mostly guys with wet mops.


They do a good job. I can’t think of any other airline whose planes constantly look factory new.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:21 am

readytotaxi wrote:
Can someone post this thread to AirFrance? :duck:

Or Delta... but they could just use somebody with a touch-up brush.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:54 am

the dry washing was a concept that came about pretty recently. at one point we only washed airplanes as they were going into checks. and the dirt faded and damaged the Paint pretty easily, so? Cleaning the airplanes with a dry wash saved money and probably saved fuel as well so it's money well spent. I think the job is sourced to an outside vendor who has all the people and Equipment as well.
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:42 pm

When spotting I've seen planes with black/brown outlines around the forward left door where it touches the jetway. I don't think it reflects well on the airline.
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:13 am

Always wondered how often AA would polish their aircraft when they had their beautiful ‘Silver fleet’
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:23 am

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When spotting I've seen planes with black/brown outlines around the forward left door where it touches the jetway. I don't think it reflects well on the airline.

Virtually unavoidable. A few dirty jetways will leave a (slight) ring on a nearly brand new airplane. The jetway is exposed to all of the elements and especially a wholeeee lot of pollution from jet and diesel fuel, it would be a gargantuan task to get all jetway canopies clean and to keep them that way. Who's gonna do it?
 
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Re: United 772 being washed at gate

Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:47 pm

True. But at the same time, it wouldn't be that hard for somebody to just wipe down the airplane if it had a black ring around the door.
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