tapairbus370
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Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:15 pm

Will this grounding of so many airframes have any impact on maintenance companies?

I mean, how many hours were not flown already because of this situation? More than a million already no? This is surely postponing some schedule maintenace of the non flying airframes.

Of course planes have to be kept in flying conditions but onde thing doesn't compensate the other and probably are done by people índice the company, mainly.

Also, the supliers of this maintenance companies will surelly be affected.

Imagine for example the quantity of tyres not chances!!

Some numbers will be interesting.

What's your opinion?
 
crjflyboy
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:22 pm

Of course there will be an effect ... huge ripples across all facets of travel related industries and businesses
 
Weatherwatcher1
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:33 pm

At first more ground time will result in more maintenance to clean up any deferred items or troubleshoot.

Beyond that most airlines have maintenance programs that are in calendar days that factor in utilization. A temporary drop in utilization usually won’t push out maintenance checks. It’s too complicated to adjust maintenance programs schedules for a month or two.
 
YULobserver
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:48 pm

some were pushing big maintenance events and cabin refurbs because of the capacity squeeze caused by the grounding of the MAX and the consequent stop in deliveries. Perhaps you will see some minor maintenance events now being phased in, however as Weatherwatcher1 has stated, bigger maintenance is usually blocked many months in advance.
 
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:33 pm

With scheduled maintenance, often booked months in advance, the aircraft will probably still arrive for MX. But when will payment be made?

Already some airlines advising suppliers of a change of payment terms. For example from 20th following to 20th following plus one.

Unscheduled maintenance, providing still flyable, or at a home base, may be left unfixed, unless in-house resources are available. Instead, used as parts mule.

Parts inventories will be run lower.

IATA settlement (booking and freight) will operate with minimum permitted balances.

JV and interline partners will be watching each other, especially with settlements and refunds. Expect some separations.

Of course there are always canny, brave airlines, MX and suppliers, with deep pockets, willing and able to take advantage of counter cyclical deals and others misfortunes, acquiring parts, aircraft and even airlines and related businesses. And there are always fundamentally sound, rapidly growing, well run airlines and businesses, that are momentarily caught out by these events.
 
tapairbus370
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:23 am

crjflyboy wrote:
Of course there will be an effect ... huge ripples across all facets of travel related industries and businesses


Of course there will be an effect, that's obvious, but I was curious about the details.
 
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:22 am

In our case, every aircraft we step into now seems to have zero or close to zero deferred defects. Every little niggle is looked at because maintenance has lots of time. The exceptions are things where the parts cannot be sourced right now because the supply chain is disrupted.

That being said, airliners aren't well suited to sitting on the ground for days on end, so new little niggles will start appearing because hydraulics are not regularly pressurised and so on.
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:52 am

If as it is claimed? the Virus will abate by the summer? Then having the slack to move heavy checks /Overhauls into this period? Might be a life saver,, but that's IF the virus abates by then. Some airlines will not have the cash to even do that. And others? Will not want to give up the hours of flying to put airplanes into heavy checks early though march -May might well be good times to do it as it is unclear whether spring Break will even happen with this Virus going around.
 
DarQuiet
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:17 am

To many it is too early to realize the effect for the fact that HMV are scheduled pretty much ahead.

But once the current ones are released to service, it will be difficult for the airline to fly it home given the airport restrictions plus the local community lockdowns in place (not sure if pilots are willing to take a pay that is worth the risk of being stranded elsewhere).

Interesting article below from flightglobal.

https://www.flightglobal.com/aerospace/ ... 34.article
 
7673mech
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:16 pm

What i am seeing at the two repair stations on opposite ends of the US I visited in the last days is this:

They are preparing to be storage yards.
The planes that are in for heavy check are being completed and then disinfected if they leave.
The other scheduled maintenance is not showing up.
This may lead to a crunch later but as it stands now airlines are forgoing the expense if they are parking the airplane.
Both facilities are talking layoffs.

A shame.
 
tapairbus370
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:37 am

 
7673mech
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:01 am

To what I said six days ago - even though visits are scheduled long in advance - most are being cancelled at outsourced MRO facilities.
The market has dried up in a week.
Most facilities are down sizing and hoping to survive on storage for now.
Shame.
Most of my work was to be new deliveries this year - so long as they are being built I will be there buts its looking very post 9/11 right now.
 
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Re: Grounding impact on maintenance business.

Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:22 pm

For whatever its worth, I am sure engine shops are OK since certain lines were certainly backlogged (thinking PW GTF, among others) so there is some work to be caught up on
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