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LH707330 wrote:Regarding the thrust levels, pilots always complain about planes being underpowered because it makes them less fun to fly, but as long as there's enough thrust to meet the certification and performance requirement, it works. I'm sure there are former jet jocks who think an empty 757 is underpowered.
VMCA787 wrote:T54A wrote:The B727-200 with the JT8D-17 was ok. Those powered by the -15 were a bit lazy getting airborne.[/quote
Obviously, you have never flown in a 200 with-7 engines!!!
CRJockey wrote:Apart from piston aircraft, I never heard anyone complain about the available power of an aircraft.
SteelChair wrote:
A classic case of a too small wing is the MD11. They tried to compensate with power. I once had a pilot tell me that doing the noise abatement departure at PDX at MTOW would result in stick shaker activation.....yet such operation was approved! The 11 also routinely can't comply with the 250kts below 10,000 feet regulation. Just not enough wing.
VMCA787 wrote:T54A wrote:The B727-200 with the JT8D-17 was ok. Those powered by the -15 were a bit lazy getting airborne.[/quote
Obviously, you have never flown in a 200 with-7 engines!!!
744SPX wrote:A 727-100 with the -17R's would have been sporty. Don't know if that combo was flown though.
tb727 wrote:744SPX wrote:A 727-100 with the -17R's would have been sporty. Don't know if that combo was flown though.
Nygard's now former/scrapped 721 had -217's on 1&3 and I think a -15 in #2. A real rocket I'm sure!
AvgWhiteGuy wrote:tb727 wrote:744SPX wrote:A 727-100 with the -17R's would have been sporty. Don't know if that combo was flown though.
Nygard's now former/scrapped 721 had -217's on 1&3 and I think a -15 in #2. A real rocket I'm sure!
My dad flew that for Nygard up until the last flight, I can ask him...
tb727 wrote:744SPX wrote:A 727-100 with the -17R's would have been sporty. Don't know if that combo was flown though.
Nygard's now former/scrapped 721 had -217's on 1&3 and I think a -15 in #2. A real rocket I'm sure!
GalaxyFlyer wrote:tb727 wrote:744SPX wrote:A 727-100 with the -17R's would have been sporty. Don't know if that combo was flown though.
Nygard's now former/scrapped 721 had -217's on 1&3 and I think a -15 in #2. A real rocket I'm sure!
A good friend flew Getty’s Valsan conversion, yes a rocket til it runs out of wing. It was built as a corporate model, -100 fuselage with -200 wing and gear, IIRC. My question is, did Boeing build a -217 powered B727 out of the production line?
GalaxyFlyer wrote:tb727 wrote:744SPX wrote:A 727-100 with the -17R's would have been sporty. Don't know if that combo was flown though.
Nygard's now former/scrapped 721 had -217's on 1&3 and I think a -15 in #2. A real rocket I'm sure!
A good friend flew Getty’s Valsan conversion, yes a rocket til it runs out of wing. It was built as a corporate model, -100 fuselage with -200 wing and gear, IIRC. My question is, did Boeing build a -217 powered B727 out of the production line?