Moderators: richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR
convair880mfan wrote:Can someone explain this. Is there such a control on every airliner?
LyleLanley wrote:Some things really are as simple as it sounds. Similar to resetting the Master Warning or Master Caution when you're working an issue but it'll come back on if something else breaks, by pressing the gear horn button you're telling the jet "Yeah, yeah. I know" and if anything else changes it'll go off again.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:It was the engineer’s job to silence the horn on the 727. Not taught anytime before the captain on your first flight growled, “why didn’t silence the horn”.
Woodreau wrote:I don't think modern airplanes have it. (But that is my uneducated opinion since I am only familiar with the 320) The closest function on the 320 is GPWS override.
On the 1900, the Gear Horn override was used every flight. Since the condition which caused the gear horn to go off was insufficient power to maintain flight while the gear was retracted, they positioned the gear override button in front of the power levers so you couldn't override and operate the power levers simultaneously... you had to hear the warning as you triggered it or you needed the other pilot to override the horn so you (and all of the passengers onboard) didn't hear it.
However the pilots figured out the workaround that was taught to everyone once you hit the line, you put your index finger on the gear horn override button, pushed and held the button while simultaneously using your elbow to mash the power levers to idle. then release the button... no gear horn. of course if you forgot to release the friction lock it was harder to do this.
GalaxyFlyer wrote:LyleLanley wrote:Some things really are as simple as it sounds. Similar to resetting the Master Warning or Master Caution when you're working an issue but it'll come back on if something else breaks, by pressing the gear horn button you're telling the jet "Yeah, yeah. I know" and if anything else changes it'll go off again.
Except, if you don’t advance the throttles far enough to reset the gear warning horn. Yes, old types like my namesake. Travis crew at the end of 4.5 hour local, planned no-flap landing, so low throttle position but usually enough to reset the silenced horn. But our heroes were a little light, little higher than usual, silenced the horn but never needed enough thrust to reset the horn. Long slide on the belly. Not good news for the IP in the right seat, especially after a general had earlier said the next gear up landing was an FEB. I think, IIRC, a good guy who suffered through the inevitable to fly again.
Most systems today use a variety of inputs to not require pilots to silence the horn except in very unusual conditions. The Global’s gear warning shocked me when it went off due to low radar altitude during a photo shoot.
N1120A wrote:GalaxyFlyer wrote:LyleLanley wrote:Some things really are as simple as it sounds. Similar to resetting the Master Warning or Master Caution when you're working an issue but it'll come back on if something else breaks, by pressing the gear horn button you're telling the jet "Yeah, yeah. I know" and if anything else changes it'll go off again.
Except, if you don’t advance the throttles far enough to reset the gear warning horn. Yes, old types like my namesake. Travis crew at the end of 4.5 hour local, planned no-flap landing, so low throttle position but usually enough to reset the silenced horn. But our heroes were a little light, little higher than usual, silenced the horn but never needed enough thrust to reset the horn. Long slide on the belly. Not good news for the IP in the right seat, especially after a general had earlier said the next gear up landing was an FEB. I think, IIRC, a good guy who suffered through the inevitable to fly again.
Most systems today use a variety of inputs to not require pilots to silence the horn except in very unusual conditions. The Global’s gear warning shocked me when it went off due to low radar altitude during a photo shoot.
The controller didn't give them a Check Wheels Down?
litz wrote:That must be really darned interesting on the jets that are now converted fire bombers ...
It'd wake you up on every pass, over every hilltop.
Canuck600 wrote:litz wrote:That must be really darned interesting on the jets that are now converted fire bombers ...
It'd wake you up on every pass, over every hilltop.
It has probably been disabled for that very reason.