macmac76
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Long Haul Flights

Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:22 am

I have a question. On ultra-long haul flights where the flight is more than 8 hours long, I understand that a flight carries two sets of crew. How do they divide the flight time? Does the first crew handle the take off and then halfway throught the flight, the second crew takes over and does the second half including landing? Or, does the first crew fly for about 3 hours, then the second crew or "relief crew" take care in the middle, then after maybe 3 hours, the original crew assumes duty again for landing??? How does it work. Thanks for any answers.

 
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RE: Long Haul Flights

Fri Sep 29, 2000 6:54 pm

They work both ways. It depends on airlines. BA will take that second option you have provided that is "the first crew fly for about 3 hours, then the second crew or "relief crew" take care in the middle, then after maybe 3 hours, the original crew assumes duty again for landing" Hope these helps.

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RE: Long Haul Flights

Sat Sep 30, 2000 8:21 am

Two sets of crew are NOT always carried.

Many airlines carry an extra captain only and the three crew rotate throughout the flight.

In addition, should a difficult situation arise, all three crew could be called to the flight deck together, two to fly the airplane, one to monitor and act as extra eyes and ears.

 
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How We Do It.

Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:41 pm

We have crews based in different places. For example, one of our Eruope flights (If well planned) will fly with a Europe based Captain and First Officer, and a Hong Kong based First Officer (Relief command qualified) and a Second Officer. This makes it easy, as all out Europe flights leave HKG at around midnight.
What normally happens, is that after take-off, the two Hong Kong based pilots (Sleepy by now) will go to bed. The other two (Being afternoon on their body clocks) will fly.

On an 11.5 hour flight, the first half an hour or so, all four pilots will be in the cockpit watching. The last hour, the two flying pilots (I.e. Capt. and FO) will want to be in the seat an hour before landing. This neatly leaves 10 hours to be split for rest. 5 hours for each set of crew. so, 5.5 hours into the flight, there is a crew change until an hour before landing, when everyone is back in the cockpit for the busy period.

On a very long flight, e.g. LAX to HKG in winter (16 hours), the crew may split it up into two segments, so maybe each set sleeps for 4 hours and then flies for 4, then sleepos for 3 hours then flies again for 3.

If all 4 guys are based at the same place, then we will have to see who is more sleepy to fly when his/her body clock wants to sleep!!

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