What Are The Experts Opinions On This Stuff?

c172akula · Thu Mar 27, 2003 6:31 am

I believe someone once came onto this site spouting off about Chemtrails and government spraying. Just wondering what most of the regulars on the tech/op's site think about this stuff.

Personally I think these people are out of their minds, just go read some of the topics in the forum on this website: http://www.chemtrailcentral.com

doug_or · Thu Mar 27, 2003 6:46 am

This has been discussed several times before. At least one of them had guest appearances from a "believer". I can see how it might make sense to a hypochondriac who knew nothing about planes or physics, though. especialy with the occasional letter from an "insider".

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 7:48 am

As you may notice on the forums on that site, there is a person with the name "PHXPilot". That is me. Ive been on there for a few months now exposing the flaws in their theories. They dont like me. I wonder why? Smile

In fact, they have become so irritated with me that they started a whole new forum section that I cant get into and ruin their fun.

I would be happy if many of my fellow A.netters would register and help me debunk their theories. It would help me out drastically. Ive been visiting that site 12 hours per day. I need some backup Smile

c172akula · Thu Mar 27, 2003 8:25 am

Hey there Beefmoney, I have to say that I picked up on you pretty quickly there fighting the good fight! I have to say that as a pilot as well I am tempted to go on there and back you up, just to give those wacko's someone new to argue with!

So your the reason why they have that exclusive forum as well...bravo to you sir! Truly an accomplishment! I wonder if anything like that will ever happen to airliners.net?

Perhaps I will sign up, I'll let you know what my handle will be if I do.

c172akula · Thu Mar 27, 2003 8:53 am

Beefmoney, YYCPilot is now on the scene to give you some backup and make their lives even more miserable!

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 8:58 am

I see we have 2 new members on Chemtrail Central fighting the good fight.

Very nice.

My main reason for being there is to keep people from watching airliners and thinking that the beautiful contrails are really made of poison.

Thats horrible. I dont want anyone to believe that.

A word of warning though, if you become a "debunker" on chemtrailcentral, you will be viciously attacked verbally by the extremists on that site who will change their mind for no one. Ive learned to deal with them, but you should be prepared to be called "F**** nazi" or a government agent sent to hide the truth. I have been told 3 times to "choke on your F**** dinner you F**** Nazi!!"

Just a word of warning, but other than that, thanks for joining. We need as much actual knowledge in there as possible.

Big thumbs up

c172akula · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:01 am

I can hardly wait to be attacked!
"I love the smell of debunking in the morning. It smells like....victory." Big grin

c172akula · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:04 am

I may just have to submit that website as an "Awful link of the Day" for Somethingawful.com!

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:09 am

Hey man, go for it. Smile

But, Im a longtime member of Fark.com. And, as you may know, Fark and Somthingawful are bitter rivals, so dont expect me to rally with the goons over there.

FARK OR NOTHING! Big thumbs up

OPNLguy · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:12 am

Anyone have a hammer and a wooden stake so we can drive it into the heart of this topic, and kill it once and for all?

Besides, everyone -knows- chemtrails are caused by Martian spaceships dumping their lavs in-flight whenever they visit earth... Nuts

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:16 am

Hey OPNLguy, if you want to drive a stake into it and kill this retarded theory once and for all, I would like to recruit you for the Debunker Force. Get on chemtrailcentral and explain what they are seeing, and we can get through to as many people as possible. Then they will stop yakking about it. Smile

Debunker Force....WE WANT YOU! Smile

doug_or · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:17 am

which forum where you banned from?

PDXpilot

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:18 am

Second from the top of the list of forums. You need a password to get in. They wont give me one Smile

c172akula · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:19 am

Come and join up, and fight the good fight over at chemtrailcentral.com!
I wonder if any of those goofs have picked up a picture of a plane making contrails, plus the APU putting out a small one as well? That would probably have them jumping to all sorts of new conclusions!

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:22 am

I wonder if any of those goofs have picked up a picture of a plane making contrails, plus the APU putting out a small one as well?

You bet they have. At least 3 times. And thats what we told them. Then they said I was a nazi. Again.

They really like jumping to conclusions Smile

c172akula · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:25 am

Unbelievable, I remember hearing this stuff on Art Bell when I would be driving home late at night and laughing my ass off at it all!

c172akula · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:38 am

If I am noticing a trend...the new signups are all using the basic context of your username Beefmoney. "IDENT"Pilot, then they will know that they are dealing with the debunkers and general %$it disturbers!

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:38 am

..and another. I welcome PDXpilot to the debunker family Smile

I also find it interesting that some of the new debunkers have chosen names similar to mine. Big thumbs up

PHXPilot
PDXPilot
YYCPilot

$5 says that the chemmies will accuse you guys of really being me (PHXPilot) just under different names.

Just watch Smile

c172akula · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:40 am

Come on now Beefmoney, $5 dollars American is too rich for us Canadians to even think of wagering on...that's like half my yearly salary!

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:43 am

Oh yes, I forgot. Smile

How about 2 cents?

Not much of a gamble anyway, no doubt they will accuse you of being me.

OPNLguy · Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:06 am

>>>Hey OPNLguy, if you want to drive a stake into it and kill this retarded theory once and for all, I would like to recruit you for the Debunker Force.

Sorry, I have much better things to do with my time than trying to convince the unconvincable...

I'm sure the chemtrail crowd would probably also try to have me killed but 987cj[m' klkpcp[l NO CARRIER

doug_or · Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:07 am

after YYC did it, i had no choice- Solidarity!

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:22 am

Sorry, I have much better things to do with my time than trying to convince the unconvincable...

Well, dont we all? Smile

But debating with chemmies is addicting. Its like a drug. A stupid, ignorant drug. Smile

Beefmoney · Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:47 am

Man, Ive been checking up on chemtrailcentral every few minutes and we havent gotten one response back yet. This is quite possibly one of the longest times between chemmie posts I can remember. I think we scared them off. Smile

Beefmoney · Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:35 am

Well, they seem to have caught on to the influx of debunkers.

I would like to thank all of you who decided to join and post. Hopefully some of our posts will filter through, and someone will be enlightened. Smile

And I encourage anyone else to join and fight the good fight. Smile

dan2002 · Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:27 am

They seem not to know anything about science. Jeez they don't even know what effects the sun has on clouds. Well im with you 100% my usrnm is DBNKPilot and ill act like 1 of 'Them" then give them a pic of a large contrail have them ponder over it then BANG thell feel like real ass-holes!!!

SOLIDARIDY 4 EVER!!!

Beefmoney · Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:47 am

Hey Dan2002. Now your using some strategy Smile

*Note: For those who think that his idea may be deceitful and misleading, you must remember that these people have taken to calling anyone that thinks contrails are just contrails, "Nazis, F**** lieing idiots, etc...". We have to take some crooked measures if we want to teach these people how flawed their arguments are. They will be swayed by very, very, little.

I dont want people seeing me, my friends and family, or anyone else in cruise over their hometown, and have them think that we are part of an elaborate plot to kill them. That is why we must stomp this thing out. It does no good for anyone. It does massive harm though.

[Edited 2003-03-28 02:22:07]

Beefmoney · Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:11 pm

Where are all of you? Smile

I was up till 1 last night responding to some new chemmies, then I got up at 4 this morning to do it some more. We've been having some nice banter you guys might want to get in on.

David L · Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:25 pm

Might give it a go at the weekend. It's a scream.

ben · Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:08 am

I just joined the forum too!

This is going to be so much fun... Hope it doesnt take too long to get some replies..

c172akula · Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:54 am

Sorry there Beefmoney, I haven't been on much this last day or so. I've had pretty full days of flying, but rest assured I will be on tonight bashing the chemmies good and hard.

XFSUgimpLB41X · Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:36 am

I cant resist.. gonna have to register...

Beefmoney · Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:09 am

No problem C172.

And thank you XFSUgimpLB41X.

It seems the chemmies have found this thread and have started posting sections of it on Chemtrailcentral. Good for you!

To chemmies who read this: Go ahead and post another topic on the main aviation forum here about chemtrails. Go right ahead. Well see how many people are ignorant enough to buy into it. But youll just say that all the pilots, mechanics, ATC'ers, and grounds crew are just stupid, wont you? Nooooo, they dont know anything about how aircraft, contrails, or weather works. You would much rather take you aviation info from a guy who works at McDonalds. He is so much more knowledgeable about those things, obviously, since he believes in chemtrails and all.

Ah, the scientific method. Works wonders doesnt it?

c172akula · Sat Mar 29, 2003 10:57 am

I remember the last time someone posted about chemtrails on here, the laughs could very well be heard all over the world. But since big brother is watching us and this website of 'contrail propaganda' let me just say this...I love you chemmies. Smile

radarbeam · Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:00 pm

Now way I'm missing out on some good laughs. YULpilot is chemtrailcentral's newest user. Smile

Which forum are you guys posting into?

Beefmoney · Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:18 pm

Hey RadarBeam. 99% of my posts are in the top forum on the list named "Chemtrails". Thats the main big one.

Im very pleased with the response on here. Way to go guys! Smile

c172akula · Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:03 pm

Are we still being spied on? It's a good thing I have a couple of 'other' aviation boards I'm on, and their identities will remain secret so I can plot against my enemies. Big grin

Beefmoney · Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:05 pm

I wouldnt doubt that a couple of them check up on us here. Ive got a couple other boards too, so it doesnt bother me too much. Smile

c172akula · Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:27 pm

Now they are making fun of us not having girlfriends! If sailors can be married to the sea, can't we be married to the sky? I love you chemmies.

Beefmoney · Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:28 pm

Theres a reason we've had so many posts on here titled "Reasons airplanes are better than women" Smile

dan2002 · Sat Mar 29, 2003 11:56 pm

Why dont we make a forum that they cant get into Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Beefmoney · Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:10 am

Lol, I think they would stay out of this forum just because it costs money. Smile

David L · Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:05 pm

After reading a few days worth of what's going on there I've decided to leave it to "you guys". With a few exceptions, there are generally two types of people "spreading the word" there. Some will obviously take every opportunity to have a go at the "evil" west - the old "death to anyone who doesn't share my beliefs" technique. Why else would they keep spouting about Zionism? Others may be genuinely paranoid and close to the edge. I don't want to be the one to push anyone off!

Hypocrite that I am, I'll still enjoy watching your duels though Smile

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Beefmoney · Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:30 am

I was just reading the other parts of the site, and one part said that you can tell if it is a chemtrail because chemtrails are formed in X's or parallel lines. Ummm, arent X's and parallel lines the only 2 possible ways lines can be formed? If they arent parallel, then they will eventually form an X.

Covering all their bases I see.

David L · Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:10 am

I can't believe some of the stuff over there. What do they call clouds? Chemblobs? There were a few chemblobs over my house this afternoon that lasted well over 10 minutes and they were moving... spooky!

CanadianPilot · Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:23 am

That website makes me laugh....then it gets me really pissed too!!

I wrote up a long post on exactly how contrails are formed. And well, I got banned 7 minutes later.

Oh well. Let them believe what they want to believe.

-Chris

Beefmoney · Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:56 am

CanadianPilot, were you NotasNaiveasYou?

CanadianPilot · Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:26 pm

I don't think they liked my username! Insane

Beefmoney · Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:28 pm

They didnt seem to Smile

CanadianPilot · Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:40 pm

But All I did was post some facts!

Geez

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