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757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Tue Feb 03, 2004 2:42 pm

How do you distinguish from the two?

how can you tell the difference just by a photo?

thanks

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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:22 pm

Well if you're looking at the overhead.....the B767 has a cargo heat s/w. If you can see far back enough, the B757 has a "step down" cockpit, as soon as you walk in the door, it's about 6 inches lower. If there's about a 6 inch step up, it's a B767. If you can see back, look at the jumpseats, as most all 757's have one, and most 767's have two.

Look at the windows too...helps a little. Otherwise, sometimes it's damn tough to figgure it out!

Any more clues?

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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:32 pm

There is much morespace in the 767 cockpit and on the overhead panel, quite in the center, you´ll find two red and white marked fuel dump switches.

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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:12 pm

"you´ll find two red and white marked fuel dump switches."

Not on all 767s you won't!


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The majority of differences are seen on the overhead panel however, in addition to the more spacious 767 flightdeck, the step up rather than down... as already mentioned.

The handling and operational differences are greater: http://www.757.org.uk/diff/index.html
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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:48 pm

On AAL B757s, the electric hydraulic pump controls are pushbutton switches.
On AAL B767s, the same controls are knobs.

Having worked more on the 757, it gets me almost everytime I walk in a 767...

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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:46 am

Having been inside both and a relative that flies both, There is not much difference.

As said prior in the 757 you step down and in the 767 you step up. The 757 cockpit is set back into the fuselage further so the flight deck is a comparable size, however the 767 has a lot more room than behind the seats (in the jumpseat area.

A pilot that flies both the 757 and 767, as long as he flies 3 legs in either aircraft in the past 90 days (I think that is the number) to stay current can fly either type. I other words a pilot could have only flown the 757 for the past year and hop into a 767 and fly off. He just has to remember the slight differences (diameter of a 180 degree turn comes to mind).

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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:55 am

I flew on TF-ATR last year with Excel Airways and the Captain said that the B757 cockpit was wider than the B767 and felt like it had more room.

I dont know how but that is what he said.
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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 2:02 am

"A pilot that flies both the 757 and 767, as long as he flies 3 legs in either aircraft in the past 90 days (I think that is the number) to stay current can fly either type. I other words a pilot could have only flown the 757 for the past year and hop into a 767 and fly off. He just has to remember the slight differences (diameter of a 180 degree turn comes to mind)."

This is not the case in the UK, provided we have alternate sim checks (i.e. 757 the 767 then 757, etc...) then we can fly either type without a currency issue.

It is perfectly possible in theory for a pilot to go for years flying just a 757, take alternate sim checks, but step into a 767 the next day and fly it. Crazy, and thankfully very rare as the handling differences are not slight in my opinion.
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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:02 am

It's sometimes possible to tell the difference from the EICAS screens. If you can see an N3 indication on the EICAS screen then it's a fair bet that it's a 757 with RB211 engines. The only 767's to have RB211's were delivered to BA and are therefore not that common.

Another difference, but not as reliable is the fuel cut off switch. CF6 equipped 767's do not have the "rich" position. It's either off or on but on the RB211 it has a rich position between on and off. This rich setting is only use to start the engines in extremely cold weather or to give you a hot start if you are having a really bad day.

I believe that Pratt & Whitney equipped 767's also have this feature so it not a fool proof way to identify what aircraft you are looking at.
 
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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:35 pm

On the engine instrumentation... If it has EPR & N1, it can be any of them... if it's N1 and no EPR, it has GOT TO BE a 767! Big grin PW & RR uses EPR, GE uses N1 only... so... no GE on 757s Big grin

Just my useless contribution ! Big grin

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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:53 pm

Didn't a Far Eastern airline take delivery of a 767 with RR engines? China Yunnan perhaps?
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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:19 pm

Indeed...


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RE: 757/767 Cockpit Difference?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:12 pm

The China Yunnan aircraft are now with China Eastern, meaning you can see RB211 powered 767s flying with three airlines:

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