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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:20 pm

Hi HAWK,

I guess we´ve lost about 5-6 liters. Including the amount of fuel which spilled over me (which was the major part). Luckily, we had some tubs in our line van to collect the fuel before the firemen arrived. But they were very fast. It took less than five minutes until they arrived at the location. The pool was not covered.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:42 pm

The pool was not covered.
Any Fire precautions observed,considering the vapour above the Fuel.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:02 pm

Hawk,

first, Jet A1 isn´t very flammable, and secondly in Germany it usually doesn´t get that warm outside that you will have a lot of flammable vapours around. The fire fighters usually park a truck mounted foam unit beside the plane that is leaking, with a few fire fighters to operate it in case of a fire. Their main concern is catching the fuel before it runs into the drains and causes enviromental pollution, especially to the ground water (which is used in many places here for drinking water. The water companies say that one litre of fuel can contaminate one million liters of water and make it unusable for drinking).

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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:22 am

There was no risk of a fire that night. The wind was very strong preventing the build up of flamable vapours. Secondly, the whole airport fire department was present. They were very happy about this "real" alarm which makes a boring nightshift shorter.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:56 pm

They were very happy about this "real" alarm which makes a boring nightshift shorter.
The Fire Dept staff at Mumbai feel the same  Smile
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:47 pm

Also, the airport company cashes up to $1.000 for each started hour they´ve got the fire fighters out to clean up a fuel spill, so the guys will take their time. The loaders are employed by the same airport company and tend to call the fire fighters if only a quart gets spilled, even though we carry absorbent (cat litter sand) in our trucks.

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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:00 pm

loaders are employed by the same airport company and tend to call the fire fighters if only a quart gets spilled
That would be tough & Expensive.  Smile
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:54 pm

the only fluids i've managed to get covered in are fuel and deicing fluids. my jumpsuits still sting of jet-a even though i washed it about 10 times since it happenned. ah well, scars of life i guess. but deicing fluid isn't that bad. at least it tastes sweet. i've gotten it all over my boots when bleeding our holding tanks. the only problem i have with the stuff is when airplanes are deicing at the gate and the stuff isnt cleaned up. try pushing back in that mess. i got skydrol on me once though. i was talking to a mech repaing a leak on a DHC-8-200 wing and had the stuff drip on to me. got down my shirt, hurt like hell even after i showered.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:46 pm

Even a drop of Skydrol around the mouth can burn for hours.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:19 am

Triclorethelne (unsure of spelling), great cleaner, but now known to be a carcinogenic
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:32 pm

I wonder if theres any Aircraft related fluid thats liked.Maybe Contact cleaner  Smile as long as ints away from the eye.
So I guess none.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:24 pm

I wonder if theres any Aircraft related fluid thats liked.

Liquids found and consumed during a galley check. Non-alcoholic only of course!  Big grin
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:12 pm

Liquids found and consumed during a galley check. Non-alcoholic only of course!
Wish these could be used in the Hydraulic system.
We would have constant replenishment.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:45 pm

SKYDROL - the devils fluid. That wonderful red stuff MIL-H-5606 has even begun to change until is smarts a little when you get it on your skin (5606G).
I went into a BAe-146 hydraulics bay to check out a leak and it was a high pressure leak that caused a Skydrol vapor cloud. I wouldn't say it hurt too much but then I nearly passed out 'cause I couldn't breath for all the involuntary coughing trying to hack it out of my lungs. I worked with guys that had permanent dermatitus from skydrol. I could wash my hands in it, just can't breath it.
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:26 pm

I worked with guys that had permanent dermatitus from skydrol
They must have been really close to Skydrol for a long time.What were the Symtoms.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:51 pm

I can't see any need for this Avionics- Engine /Airframe palaver, I've done plenty of nasty eng-a/f stuff in my time as you can't afford to specialise lower down the food chain. I've never had the dubious pleasures of Skydrol as you don't see it in GA, so for me the worst is MEK. Funny, my first job after leaving school was gluing LEGO Models together for display, using MEK every day, never thought when I started working on aircraft that I'd ever have to see it again...

Second would be Jet Fuel. One of the nasty eng-a/f jobs I had once was standing in the wheel well of a DC-3 that had had an engine failure, cleaning out the oil tank with Jet Fuel and a cleaning gun, breathing in a Jet Fuel-Oil-God Knows What fog, with the s**t running out the bottom of the oil tank all over me; I was in there for two days, there must have been at least 4" of sludge in the bottom of that tank and I had to get it all out in case there was any metal in it.

Another thing I used to hate was helping change fuel drain O-rings, crouching under the wing of a PA28 with your thumb over the hole on a cold winters morning while the eng-a/f guy took as long as he could to change the ring (because that was funnier than having a replacement ring or drain valve ready to go).

Apropos the flammability discussion, I was present once when a colleague poured some Jet-Fuel on the concrete one cold (at least for Sydney) night and took to it with a blow-torch, it didn't even light. However, I can attest that water-meth burns really well on a barbecue.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:15 am

Quoting Fokker Lover (reply 10):
I've spent more time swimming in fuel tanks than alot of pilots have flying. I've taken skydrol showers, and breathed skydrol fog. I've been burned with hot oil, and hosed with wet paint stripper


Sounds like you should find a new line of work.
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:30 pm

N867BX
Just about every mechanic out there has had the same experiences that I had. It's nothing new, just interesting the first time it happens to you. I still love working on airplanes, but it's funny you should mention that, because I have found a new line of work. I am now a small business owner. This opportunity came along just before I was scheduled to get furloughed from a morally and financially bankrupt airline.

I also request that the next time you quote me, please use the entire quote so it isn't taken out of context.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:15 am

Quoting Fokker Lover (reply 67):
I have found a new line of work. I am now a small business owner. This opportunity came along just before I was scheduled to get furloughed from a morally and financially bankrupt airline.


Given a choice.Which was the better job  Smile
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:51 pm

Got to be (DEFINITELY in order):

#1: Skydrol
#2: Jet-A
#3: Turco Paint Stripper
#4: MEK (or, even worse, the precursor, DowClene)
#5: Used Blue Water

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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:49 am

For working only on aircraft engines I've never worked with Skydrol. So for me the most worst fluid is Jet Fuel... Have got some showers in the Test Cell (due to improper blanking off and forget to shut off the fuel valves when working on the fuelsystem) and with replacing fuel filters.
Also burned my hands several times on hot oil passages.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:29 pm

Jet Fuel If not cleaned fast can burn real bad.The Skin peels of in a layer.Face this on my hands a lot at times.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:38 pm

When it starts to itch, you're already too late...
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:46 pm

Dl757md.
So whats the latest on the Project.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:17 am

I wanted a sample of aircraft fluid for my birthday.
Now I am defiantly having second thoughts!


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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:44 pm

For me:

Skydrol- On the B737 aircraft, had that crap drip down my neck while I was in the main wheel well when some newbie mechanic wasnt paying attention. It burned and had a itchy rash for a damn week! That F*@&in' MORON!

Mirabowl- Blue lavatory juice. Touch that crap you'll look like a smurf for a few weeks. Not fun, been there, done that, lessons learned. no 

TU77 paint remover- Good luck sniffin that stuff, people would think you're high on drugs!
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:08 pm

One drop of Skydrol in the eye is Enough to remember the event forever.  Smile
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:58 am

At America West we all agree with the great purple hydraulic fluid SKYDROL
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:39 am

As a frequent passenger the most hated aircraft fluid is ethanol. Especially when excessively consumed by the passenger sitting next to me.

Last time that happened to me, and I couldn't relocate to another seat, then I seriously considered relocating to the blue water room for the rest of the flight.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:47 pm

How do you all handle a Cell phone call while working on a Hydraulic snag.
The bosses keep calling up,I use the Handsfree,but the Rubber/plastic gets sticky thereafter.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:52 pm

I know thus is not a fluid but I'm not too keen on the dust behind the cargo liners and in the recirc filters.

When I think of all the dead skin, farts, sweat and disease that's in this dust It makes me sick.
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:38 pm

Hawk,
I put my phone on my box or a safe distance from where I am working. If the boss wants to know something he/she will come out and find out. They already know that you are dealing with an hydraulic issue. If they don't understand, when they come out, give them a "taste" and their impatience will quickly disappear.
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:06 am

MEK, with diluted lav juice in a close second.

[quote=SlamClick,reply=24 Turbo Commander: Fill the center tank. Go out and fill one or both wing tanks. Come back and open the center tank. You might do that once.]

That's a good way of taking a bath, you can also fill the wings and wonder why your shirt is covered in jet fuel as the wing is sitting 6 inches lower due to the settled strut.

And those aren't the only ways.

Thanks SlamClick  

BTW: First post for me. Looks nice here in the tech ops forum.



Edited to try to get the quote text to work.

[Edited 2005-04-14 17:09:42]
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:16 am

Any Experiences of personnel involved in the Manufacturing of Skydrol.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:14 am

My worst expierence was a de-ice product wash over my head and uniform
when I unfortunatly stand underneath an A319's wing when its freeking skydrol driven aileron moved too early...

Skydrol is that that pink stuff?

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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:59 pm

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 83):
Skydrol is that that pink stuff?

Light to clear purple liquid.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:48 pm

It can also be a yellow color, a darker shade. But it still burns the same!!!
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Tue May 17, 2005 11:52 pm

Dl757md.....
Any Update on the same.
What finally Transpired.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Wed May 18, 2005 2:45 am

You ever seen that shit that comes out of the bilge of an aircraft, its a mix of water, galley juices, [email protected], skydrol etc etc... all your worst nightmares combined!!!
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Wed May 18, 2005 11:45 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 24):
Some turbrprops offer good ways to take a kerosene bath.

MU-2: Where will YOU stand to hit the depress valve on the tiptank?

I was riding home on the bus after just such a no-brainer and the woman next to me said: "I smell diesel oil."

I said: "No ma'am. That is my cologne."

We used to walk on top of the wing out to the tip tank, kneel down and do the ol' "reach-around"  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Wed May 18, 2005 12:50 pm

Here's the proper procedures on how to refuel a mu-2:

1. Ramp aircraft away from the hanger or tie down.

2. With a fully topped off 3000gal fuel truck, proceed to refuel, take care when you pull the tip tank vents. You dont want to be covered in jet-a for procedure 4.

3. Make sure to have lots of overspill into the cabin and rear cargo hold.

4. Locate a medium to long fused 1/4 stick of dynamite, drop into the right, center fueling port, light fuse, run away.

5. Make sure you have plenty of confetti and Champaign on hand for the after lighting festivals.

6. Tell pilot that because he used his cell phone, he caused the explosion. Your guaranteed no liability that way. Politely tell him to never bring one of those P.O.S.'s back to your FBO.

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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Wed May 18, 2005 1:22 pm

Now now TwinCommander, don't be like that. The MU-2 is a great aeroplane for a maintenance guy to learn his/her trade on Big grin The Turbo Commander can be just as much of a pain in the arse as a Hiroshima Screamer. Changing batteries for instance, or trying to do anything behind the instrument panel. What about the panel lighting? Working on a 690 I changed about 80 of those #@$* CM6838 light bulbs once.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Fri May 20, 2005 5:06 pm

haha, the instrument panels aren't that bad!


atleast commander parts are plentiful.

Then again I am biased since I do work for THE twin commander service center...
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Fri May 20, 2005 5:12 pm

There was an Incident at 9W in the 1997.When Someone disconnected a Hydraulic hose in the MWW without Depressurizing the Reservoir & flooded himself & the people standing around him with Skydrol.
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Fri May 20, 2005 11:17 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 73):
So whats the latest on the Project



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 87):
Any Update on the same.
What finally Transpired

Forgive if I've missed something, but what are you referring to Hawk?  confused 

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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Sat May 21, 2005 10:01 am

Quoting TwinCommander (Reply 92):
atleast commander parts are plentiful.

We never had any problems with Mitsu parts either. We'd just walk over to one of the three or four aircraft that had suffered a wheels-up and unbolt what we needed.  Big grin
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Sat May 21, 2005 5:04 pm

Simple one this one! Definately Skydrol....it SUCKS if you have just a trace on your finger tips...say under your nails after changing an actuator...and then you go out for smoko and get this really ODD tangy taste in your mouth...this is after you have washed and scrubbed your hands 50 million times....or when it runs down PAST the rags tied around your wrists when you are changing something overhead and gets right onto your freshly shaved armpits.....man it burns then...more than JetA....or that time when you are releasing the pressure in the hyd system and just the finest mist manages to escape and you suddenly feel like your eyeballs have been trodden on by a herd of elephants and you stumble and run to the eye wash with the taunts of "Skydrol Eyes...HAHAHA" in the background.....gee I love my job sometimes!
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Sat May 21, 2005 5:04 pm

Quoting Dl757md (Reply 94):
Forgive if I've missed something, but what are you referring to Hawk?

Pls Disregard.Sorry I mistook you for someone else.  Smile
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Sun May 22, 2005 12:05 am

To AussieAMEgirl,

Have never shaved my armpits, so I don't know that particular pleasure. All others are in the "been there, done that" Bank. I had a customer watch with amazment that I would vigoriously wash my hands before preceding to take care of "matters" in the wash room. My only retort was "if you only knew.....". I will always laugh at the poor soul stumbling around, waving thier arms, looking for the eye wash station, (Castor oil is the best for eyes) WHY? Because I am laughing in relief that THIS time it isn't me!!!!
 
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RE: Most Hated Aircraft Fluid?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:47 pm

I've noticed Saf & Clean wash fluid also is good for wasing Skydrol stains of Hands.
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