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Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:43 pm

Hi,
My english is probably not up to opt, but this article has me puzzled.
How do you really call this event in the US?
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/081605_nw_emergency_landing_sfo.html
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:04 pm

Quoting Pihero (Thread starter):
How do you really call this event in the US?

Stupidity of NW-maintenance.
threads already existing about this incident
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:14 pm

Quoting ArniePie (Reply 1):
Stupidity of NW-maintenance.
threads already existing about this incident

The article has nothing to do with NW. The article is about the United 747 body gear collapse at San Francisco.
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:21 pm

It is an inadvertant body gear retraction resulting in the aircraft tipping to its tail. The media just doesn't know how to explain it and says the tail collapsed.

And Arnie, it was United Airlines, not Northwest.
 
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting Air2gxs (Reply 3):
And Arnie, it was United Airlines, not Northwest

Note to myself: Don't drink and try to post at the same time!!!
Sorry guys about the mistake.

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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:29 am


Any Link to the Anet Discussion on this Incident.
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:14 am

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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:18 am


Thanks.
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:32 am

Wow ... close the door, remove the vehicles, and it looks like it's rotating after a hellaciously short takeoff roll, right out of the hangar ... STOL, anyone?

(I hope that door was open prior to the tilt, and someone wasn't contemplating exitting the aircraft from that height ...)

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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:10 am

Well, I have simply heard of that event as putting the plain up on it's tail. Not a Tail Collapse.

When you talk about a "Tail Collapse" I picture the structure of the tail failing....

Such as....

http://www.aviationpics.de/mish/2001/crack/crack.htm
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:51 am

L-188,
Yes that's what I call a tail collapse !
Thanks for the link.
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:00 am

Wow ... close the door, remove the vehicles, and it looks like it's rotating after a hellaciously short takeoff roll, right out of the hangar ... STOL, anyone?

Except that the wings are drooped a little low for takeoff, should be some flex going on.  Smile

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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:44 pm

Quoting L-188 (Reply 9):

That sure looks a Tail collapse.
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:30 am

The tail looks pretty good to me, but I´m a bit worried about the mid-fuselage...
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:53 am

Not Necessarily what I would call a tail collapse, but more like a tail tip.
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:00 am

A tail colapse is when the whole tail structure collapses and splits aparts or is torn badly off the ac.

Quoting Jeffry747 (Reply 14):
but more like a tail tip.

right on the spot.

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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:13 am

This might qualify as a tail collapse as well:

http://forums.airlinepilotcentral.com/showthread.php?t=684

Click on the link just under "The F/As in the aft couldn't have been happy after this doozy." BTW, I seem to remember reading that this was a test flight, so no F/As were back there.
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RE: Is That A "tail Collapse"?

Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:40 am

Famous video, but as you say this is a test flight. Oops!
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