747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

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Qantas744er
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747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:14 pm

Hey, I know that the 747-400`s have the "older" CRT display`s.
I also know that the 400ER´s have the "newer" LCD display`s,
so my question is are any airlines upgrading their CRT displays in the 747 to LCD`s ?

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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:16 pm

Not quite. I am in DXB right now and I flew a 744F, 9V-SFO, it's our newest 744F and it has the LCD displays. IIRC all 400's from about 18 months ago have the LCD displays. There is a PIP to upgrade the CRTs to LCD.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:34 pm

oh ok cool. do you know what airlines are planning this upgrade?##


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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:19 pm

Couldn't even begin to guess. It's really up to the individual airlines. I know SQ is in the process of looking at the upgrade for the freighter and perhaps the pax fleet if it's cost effective.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:45 pm

Phil

slightly off topic i know, was just wondering when your a pilot for an ailrine who operates the pax and frieghter version of an aircraft such as SQ and their 400's, do you fly Pax and cargo ops? do you stick to one or the other??

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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:10 pm

It depends. We have SIA, you fly both Pax and Cargo, then we have SIA Cargo where you fly just cargo.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:20 pm

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 5):
It depends. We have SIA, you fly both Pax and Cargo, then we have SIA Cargo where you fly just cargo.

Given the choice.Which is preffered.

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 3):
I know SQ is in the process of looking at the upgrade for the freighter and perhaps the pax fleet if it's cost effective

Any Approx Number of the cost of conversion.

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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:46 pm

so which do you do Phil??
would the salary vary?
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:53 pm

I fly both. Salary is about the same, although the Cargo operation was recently started and their overall package is a little lower.

If pay were the same, I'd take cargo anytime!
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:32 am

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 8):
If pay were the same, I'd take cargo anytime!

I thought so too.  Smile
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:52 pm

LCDs cost more but they run cooler, weigh less, and consume less power.

I think that it's one of those long-term vs. short-term issues where if you plan on keeping the AC around for awhile it saves to use LCDs over CRTs.

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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:52 pm

Quoting KensukeAida (Reply 10):
LCDs cost more but they run cooler, weigh less, and consume less power

Also clarity from all Angles.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:44 pm

Qantas is retrofitting all the 747-400s with LCD screens.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:55 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
Also clarity from all Angles.

Aren't CRTs much better in this respect than LCDs (at least in terms of domestic units) - or was that what you meant, Mel?
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:42 pm

Cathay Pacific converted a 747-400F from CRT to LCD for trial purposes sometime ago but since then she had been reverted back to CRT.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:55 pm

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 13):
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
Also clarity from all Angles.

Aren't CRTs much better in this respect than LCDs (at least in terms of domestic units) - or was that what you meant, Mel

Exactly.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:16 pm

NZ toyed with the idea I believe, but the aircraft are only gonna be here for another 5 or so years.

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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:30 pm

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 14):
Cathay Pacific converted a 747-400F from CRT to LCD for trial purposes sometime ago but since then she had been reverted back to CRT.

I find it doubtful that CX would do something like this, I know B-HUQ arrived this year from Boeing with LCDs, they didn't change this to CRT for fleet commonality did they?
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:08 pm

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 14):
Cathay Pacific converted a 747-400F from CRT to LCD for trial purposes sometime ago but since then she had been reverted back to CRT

What was the reason.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:45 am

VS have converted theirs!
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:17 pm

The reason was to test the usage of LCD on 747-400. That was before the newest B744F joined the fleet. Thereafter she was converted back to CRT after the trial duration ended.

B-HUQ still feature LCD displays and it's kept unchanged.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:06 pm

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 20):
The reason was to test the usage of LCD on 747-400. That was before the newest B744F joined the fleet. Thereafter she was converted back to CRT after the trial duration ended.

Why did they not opt to keep the LCD screens.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:50 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 21):
Why did they not opt to keep the LCD screens.

Probably because out of the 6 400F`s CX have and only B-HUQ has been delivered with LCD´S it is cheaper to have 1 LCD plane and 5 CRT`S compared to 4 CRT`S and 2 LCD`S.

Please Correct me if im wrong  Smile

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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:44 pm

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 22):
Probably because out of the 6 400F`s CX have and only B-HUQ has been delivered with LCD´S it is cheaper to have 1 LCD plane and 5 CRT`S compared to 4 CRT`S and 2 LCD`S.

I could understand if it was commonolity in spares.Then all would be CRT equipped.But considering the Benefits of LCD would'nt a gradual change to LCD be a good decision.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:22 pm

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 8):
If pay were the same, I'd take cargo anytime!

Why is that Phil?

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 16):
NZ toyed with the idea I believe, but the aircraft are only gonna be here for another 5 or so years.

Really? What aircraft will replace the 744s? Or do we not know yet? I was under the impression that the 772s were going to be replaicng the 763 for the most part.
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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:11 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 24):
Really? What aircraft will replace the 744s? Or do we not know yet?

I am not allowed to tell yet. An announcement will be forthcoming in the not too distant future.

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RE: 747-400 With LCD Display`s`?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:34 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 16):
but the aircraft are only gonna be here for another

NZ1. Two or three months ago I thoght you indicated that the present -400's would be in the fleet well past 2010.
Did I misunderstand or has there been a change in plans?
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