Moderators: richierich, ua900, hOMSaR

 
SlamClick
Posts: 9576
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:09 am

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:57 am

Quoting Aogdesk (Reply 99):
re: pilot writeups from Brand X Airlines"

I get that one all the time too.

The funniest one I ever heard wasn't even on the list. In Vietnam I was flying one day with our maintenance officer. When we saw the tail number we were assigned he told me that he'd flown it yesterday and the cockpit was filthy and he'd written it up. He was looking forward to flying a nice clean airplane.

When we got to the revetments he took a look at the logbook and went as berserk as his mild disposition would permit. There were the entries:

(1) Cockpit full of crumbs.

the signoff: "Installed bird."

He was not amused and took the crewchief away for a conversation while I preflighted.
I thought it was hysterical, but then I wasn' t responsible for any of it.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
 
aogdesk
Posts: 748
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:26 am

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:46 am

I just recently saw a crew logbook write up a pack as 'smelling like an old boot". The mechanic stated (in writing) that he pulled off his old boot and smelled it, and it didn't smell anything like the pack in question.

Hopefully the FAA PMI's have an eye for humor..... Smile
 
speedracer1407
Posts: 330
Joined: Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:19 pm

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:16 pm

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 100):
In Vietnam I was flying one day with our maintenance officer.



Quoting SlamClick (Reply 100):
(1) Cockpit full of crumbs.

the signoff: "Installed bird."

Hilarious, of course, but was a pilot flying in one of the ugliest wars in U.S. history really complaining about crumbs?
Dassault Mercure: the plane that has Boeing and Airbus shaking in their boots.
 
bond007
Posts: 4428
Joined: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:07 am

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:10 pm

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 98):
These are words used by people outside the industry.

Boy, it's real tough to admit the term 'joystick' started in the aviation industry... if you don't happen to personally like the term today isn't it  Wink


Jimbo
I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
 
User avatar
Jetlagged
Posts: 2564
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:00 pm

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:37 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 103):
Boy, it's real tough to admit the term 'joystick' started in the aviation industry

Do you know this for sure? It might have been from slang originally, adopted by pilots, but it certainly isn't recognised terminology.
The glass isn't half empty, or half full, it's twice as big as it needs to be.
 
User avatar
Starlionblue
Posts: 19795
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:54 pm

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:39 pm

Quoting Speedracer1407 (Reply 102):
Hilarious, of course, but was a pilot flying in one of the ugliest wars in U.S. history really complaining about crumbs?

Why not? Humor is a time honored way to deal with stress.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." - John Ringo
 
User avatar
Jetlagged
Posts: 2564
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:00 pm

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:03 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 105):
Why not? Humor is a time honored way to deal with stress.

The maintenance officer concerned would appear to have been lacking in the sense of humour department. Petty officialdom does not disappear when war breaks out though.
The glass isn't half empty, or half full, it's twice as big as it needs to be.
 
User avatar
Starlionblue
Posts: 19795
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:54 pm

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:28 pm

Quoting Jetlagged (Reply 106):
The maintenance officer concerned would appear to have been lacking in the sense of humour department. Petty officialdom does not disappear when war breaks out though.

So true. These people are also known as REMFs.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." - John Ringo
 
Klaus
Posts: 21535
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2001 7:41 am

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:00 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 103):
Boy, it's real tough to admit the term 'joystick' started in the aviation industry... if you don't happen to personally like the term today isn't it

I'm pretty certain it did in fact originate in the context of the early video games.

And it's no wonder that nobody in the aviation industry would be caught dead being associated with something like this:



 mischievous 

As for Boeing's reluctance to switch to sidestick control, the associated change in the control philosophy would probably be a much larger change, with corresponding implications for pilot training.

They seem to shy away from imposing such a change on their prospective customers - after all, they might be tempted to go for Airbus while they'd have to invest in retraining on that level anyway if the decision was very close...

Could well be more of a psychological barrier during sales negotiations, but the still necessary difference training may not turn up as a "major" bullet point in the comparison chart as long as at least some commonality appears to be retained, however much that may mean in actual practice.
 
User avatar
Jetlagged
Posts: 2564
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:00 pm

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:19 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 108):
I'm pretty certain it did in fact originate in the context of the early video games.

No, the term was definitely in use long before video games were even thought of.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-joy1.htm
The glass isn't half empty, or half full, it's twice as big as it needs to be.
 
User avatar
ThrottleHold
Posts: 565
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:00 pm

RE: Joysticks: How Many Went For It?

Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:31 am

Quoting Jetfixer (Reply 44):
. Airbus chose to control the horizontal stab and rudder mechanically using rudder pedals and a trim wheel.



The newer A330/A340's have no mechanical back-up to the rudder. It is all purely electrical.

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 89):
If you fly Boeing you have to do your Jepp revisions on layovers. Airbus you can do them on any long segment.

Jepp revisions??!! That's the job of the office workers in Ops! We just pick up the assigned nav bag with destination booklets.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 40 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos