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Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:59 am
by HAWK21M
What is the Regulations regarding use of Flashlight for Inspection work.
Out here its 6v for Incandesent bulbs.So 3W LED def preffered.
regds
MEL

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:15 pm
by SFOMB67
Never heard of any "regulation" regarding flashlights. They frown on you taking the emergency flashlights out of the cabin and there are special "fuel tank flashlights" for use in the tanks.

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:41 am
by jetdoctor
I have to agree with Sfomb67.
In the US there is no regulation regarding flashlight illumination. But then again, the way the FAA is acting these days, the FARs might have changed since I was last at work.
I will say that my "Stinger" flashlight is much brighter than the emergency flashlights installed on our aircraft. (I will not confirm or deny that I have ever used an emergency flashlight for a pre- taxi walk around)


Regards,

Jetdoctor

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:05 am
by fr8mech
I seem to recall some specific task cards calling out for 'sufficient light', usually involved with an inspection using a magnifying glass.

I've never heard of a regulatory requirement. I think that's getting a little anal on the regulatory authority's part, isn't it?

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:55 am
by HAWK21M


Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 3):
I seem to recall some specific task cards calling out for 'sufficient light', usually involved with an inspection using a magnifying glass.

Thats true.
What would define "Sufficient".....Would it be clear view from 1-10 feet.
regds
MEL

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:05 pm
by N353SK


Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 4):
What would define "Sufficient".....Would it be clear view from 1-10 feet.

I suppose it would depend heavily on the size of the aircraft. A somewhat dim light may be sufficient for a learjet but would not be bright enough to see something like the horizontal stabilizer on a C-17.

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:31 pm
by A10WARTHOG
The only check I can recall that I did was to make sure the red charge light was on. I would make sure that the light worked, but normally only during an A check. Broken charger and missing flashlights where the most common write up and MEL's I would see.

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:41 pm
by fr8mech


Quoting A10WARTHOG (Reply 6):

Mel is talking about the flashlights we use to walkaround and inspect aircraft, not the flashlights installed on the aircraft.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 4):
What would define "Sufficient"

The dictionary defines sufficient as:

-ADJECTIVE:
-Being as much as is needed.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference...;_ylt=AlpTtgFLoGR6MhcpMik_PVasgMMF

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:27 pm
by kaddyuk


Quoting Jetdoctor (Reply 2):
(I will not confirm or deny that I have ever used an emergency flashlight for a pre- taxi walk around)

Who would care if it were true?

Quoting Fr8mech (Reply 7):

The dictionary defines sufficient as:

-ADJECTIVE:
-Being as much as is needed.

That made me chuckle...

There are Non MEL (i.e. not required for dispatch) torches in the flight deck on some carriers (Airbus specifically and not all airlines). These are there for the Pilots to use when they perform a walk round... So if they're good enough for a pilot, why the hell would they not be good enough for me?

I think the manual states that it has to be a torch that will provide sufficient illumination to highlight any of the problems you might be looking for. A torch that is too bright will tend to wash out the fuselage and you wont see any possible damage. Then again, too dim and you wont see it in the first place...

I use a Mag 3D with the LED light for my fuselage inspections and i've a mini-mag (again with LED bulb) for use in the cabin.

As long as you dont use a headtorch, you'll be fine with most torches...

Remember, the brighter the torch, the more likely you are to find something wrong...  Wink

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:26 am
by Dalmd88
Mel you sure do ask some intresting questions. Like others have posted I am not aware of an FAA reg on the intesity of an inspection light. For some mechanics that I work with the intesity of the light required depends on what day of the week it is for that indviual. Their lights tend to get dimmer as the work week progresses. I personally have used the stinger rechargable and now I use a twintask Led which has a great battery life and throws a good beam as far as I need. Our ramp is very well lit so at most gates even the horizontal stab on the MD88 is very well lit from the ramp lights.

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:11 am
by HAWK21M
During Line Mx I use the 3W LED rechargeable Brightlite,ideal to reach the Vertical stablizer on a B752.But charge lasts 90 mins only.In Major Mx I use the Incandesent AA battery operated flashlight thats small & portable ,usefull for detailed inspections.

Someone mentioned to me once that there was an LED flashlight from surefire that could create a spot of light on the Vertical stablizer of a B747.Thats something which would be welcome,not sure how long the light would last though.

regds
MEL

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:33 pm
by kaddyuk


Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
But charge lasts 90 mins only

My Mag lasts 75hrs before i have to change batts...

RE: Flashlight Intensity - Regulations

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:57 pm
by HAWK21M


Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 12):
My Mag lasts 75hrs before i have to change batts

What about Intensity decrease.
The Brightlite I'm refering to is Rechargeable.
regds
MEL