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Zuluaviator994
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Ramp Working?

Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:07 am

Hey All,
I was wondering how old you have to be/where to apply for a job on the ramp?
Thanks in advance
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RE: Ramp Working?

Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:24 am

In the US, 18, and you apply to individual airlines/contract companies, such as Swissport or Servisair.
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RE: Ramp Working?

Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:47 am

Not sure about the age limit around here, I've seen some youngish people with red passes before. But as for the job just talk to people you know in aviation at yer local airport, or contact whoever does HR for your local airlines either by phone or email and go from there.


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RE: Ramp Working?

Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:34 am

Out here 18+ & cleared with needed security Documents.
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RE: Ramp Working?

Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:03 pm

I have had a trainee ship at a freight company at Schiphol. Occasionally I had to go out on the ramp. I was 16 back then.

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RE: Ramp Working?

Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:35 pm

Just applied at AC and got the pre-employment meeting deal.

I think to qualify for your RAP (Restricted Area Pass), you have to be at least 16. To work on the ramp, alongside your RAP, you need, in Canada at least, an RAP, an AVOP (Airside Vehicle Operator's Permit), and I think a Telecommunications License as well for speaking on the radio if you're doing the ramp/cockpit interphone communication.

That's what I've read up on with AC and WS, anyway.

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RE: Ramp Working?

Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:22 am



Quoting San747 (Reply 1):
In the US, 18, and you apply to individual airlines/contract companies, such as Swissport or Servisair.

You also need a valid drivers license with a clean record.
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RE: Ramp Working?

Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:32 am



Quoting Platinumfoota (Reply 6):
You also need a valid drivers license with a clean record.

Ah, yes. I forgot about that. Long as you have no moving violations or tickets, you're clear as a bell for your AVOP.

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RE: Ramp Working?

Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:04 pm



Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 2):
I've seen some youngish people with red passes before



Quoting WestJetForLife (Reply 5):
I think to qualify for your RAP (Restricted Area Pass), you have to be at least 16

Youngest I've seen was 16.

Quoting WestJetForLife (Reply 5):
an AVOP (Airside Vehicle Operator's Permit)

You don't NEED one to work the ramp. You will NEED one if you're driving anything on the ramp.

Quoting Platinumfoota (Reply 6):
You also need a valid drivers license with a clean record.

I beg to differ on the clean driving record
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RE: Ramp Working?

Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:50 pm



Quoting YWG (Reply 8):
You don't NEED one to work the ramp. You will NEED one if you're driving anything on the ramp

Never seen ANY ramp agent in ATL without a D on their badge. I believe it's a requirement for most carriers.
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RE: Ramp Working?

Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:35 am



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 9):
Never seen ANY ramp agent in ATL without a D on their badge. I believe it's a requirement for most carriers.

Same for LAX, everyone including supervisors had one. It's almost imposible not to drive on the ramp, too much equipment to move around.
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RE: Ramp Working?

Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:09 pm



Quoting YWG (Reply 8):
You don't NEED one to work the ramp. You will NEED one if you're driving anything on the ramp.

According to WS and AC (when I got the call from ops in YYZ), they said I would need to take my AVOP test as per requirement of employment.

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RE: Ramp Working?

Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:26 pm



Quoting WestJetForLife (Reply 5):
Just applied at AC

So if you get the job at AC, will you change your user name?
 
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RE: Ramp Working?

Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:00 am



Quoting Platinumfoota (Reply 10):
Same for LAX, everyone including supervisors had one. It's almost imposible not to drive on the ramp, too much equipment to move around.

 checkmark  A far as I know, you can't operate any GSE equipment without a license. Not very helpful if you're a ramp rat and all you can do is toss bags. With our company though, gate agents aren't required to have a license. Only a handful actually have the Drivr designator on their SIDA badge (most were former ramp agents that have it).

A little OT but what I hated the most was being the only person in my zone with the customs emblem on my badge. It was a requirement for supervisors and leads but not all the ramp agents. I did the class one day on my off time and regeted it Big grin !
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RE: Ramp Working?

Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:09 pm



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 13):
A little OT but what I hated the most was being the only person in my zone with the customs emblem on my badge. It was a requirement for supervisors and leads but not all the ramp agents. I did the class one day on my off time and regeted it !

In most international airports it is required for all agents that deal with international passengers and/or cargo to have customs seals. JFK has a seal specific to the function that you perform.
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RE: Ramp Working?

Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:54 pm



Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 14):

Correct. If you were assigned to any of the zones on E, you were required to take the class but I worked out of zone 3 and later 6 on C concourse so not everyone had it but we would get the occasional international arrivals/departures and It was usually only me and a lead loading the flight.
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RE: Ramp Working?

Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:48 pm



Quoting Bartonsayswhat (Reply 12):
So if you get the job at AC, will you change your user name?

Probably. WS doesn't love me enough to even consider giving me a ramp job. At least AC called first.

Yeah, to the OP: if you wanna work ramp, just be sure you have:
. A clean criminal record.
. A clean (or almost clean) driver's abstract.
. Be 16-18 years old (depending on the airline, FAA, TC and DOT regulations).
. Be able to work ALL shifts. Yes, this means holidays, weekends, nights, days, whatever.

Cheers and good luck!
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