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Commercial Turboprops Still In Production

Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:09 pm

I'm trying to come up with a list of commercial turboprops that are still being produced, and so far I only have 4:

Embraer EMB-120
ATR 42-500
ATR 72-500
Bombardier Q400

Are there any others?
 
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:43 pm

The Cessna Caravan 208 and 208B are still in production.


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Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:29 pm

I wonder if Raytheon/Beechcraft could be pursuaded to re-start 1900D production with a big enough order? After all, it is basically a super-extended King Air 350 with a stand up cabin, and even uses the King Air 350 tail (with some strakes added...). I don't know if the 1900D had a unique wing, though...but I doubt that Beechcraft destroyed the tooling.
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:55 pm

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Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:11 pm

Viking Air of Victoria just put the Twin Otter back into production. I think the last deHavilland model came off the line 30 years ago.
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:32 pm

Basler BT-67
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Piaggio P-180 Avanti

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Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:53 am

Are Alenia Spartan and CASA (195?) strictly military? Coz I thought they were still produced.
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:26 pm



Quoting Arrow (Reply 4):
Viking Air of Victoria just put the Twin Otter back into production. I think the last deHavilland model came off the line 30 years ago.

21 years (1988).
 
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:07 pm



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 5):
Piaggio P-180 Avanti

No disrespect 2H4, but how does the Avanti constitute a "Commercial" turboprop? Is it certified under Part 25 Transport Category rules?

Something in my "Commercial Turboprop" senses tells me that it falls into the same category as many other business jets/business aircraft-too expensive per flight hour to operate for self-sustaining scheduled air service  Wink

Maybe you can open my eyes here, but I'm not aware of a single operator who is flying it under scheduled service...I know of several fractional ownership or NetJets type operations who have an Avanti or two, though...  Smile
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:59 pm

Is a commercial version of the current C-130J Hercules available, equivalent to the L-100 variant of earlier C-130 models?
 
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:47 am



Quoting SashA (Reply 6):
Are Alenia Spartan and CASA (195?) strictly military? Coz I thought they were still produced.

The Spartan and Casa 295 are military only, but there are civilian versions of the C-212 and C-235, both of which are still in production.
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:27 am



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 8):
No disrespect 2H4, but how does the Avanti constitute a "Commercial" turboprop? Is it certified under Part 25 Transport Category rules?

Oh, no disrespect taken. I failed to see and/or comprehend that "commercial" caveat, that's all. I blame insufficient coffee intake.

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Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:34 am

is only the q400 in production? the 300/200/100 of the dash 8 are gone?
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Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:27 pm



Quoting Ba97 (Reply 12):
is only the q400 in production? the 300/200/100 of the dash 8 are gone?

The last I head, yes:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-discontinue-q200q300-in-2009.html
 
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Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:30 pm

HAL was supposedly making Dornier 228's again in India, though I havent seen one (maybe someone here has)
http://www.hal-india.com/exports/dornier.asp

The Beech King Air 200 is still in production with options for commuter interiors.

The Britten Norman Defender (and Islander with turboprops) is still in production I believe
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Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:26 pm



Quoting ATCT (Reply 14):
HAL was supposedly making Dornier 228's again in India, though I havent seen one (maybe someone here has)

Actually, HAL is delivering the structure for new Do 228s assembled in Germany.

http://www.ruag.com/en/AerospaceTech...Dornier_228/Production_Dornier_228
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Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:24 pm

Not to forget L-420, or L-410UVP-E20 as type certificate says.
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Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:02 am

Reims F406

 
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Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:28 pm

That reminded me, together with TR i read today, Il-114 might still kind of be in production.
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RE: Commercial Turboprops Still In Production

Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:13 pm



Quoting Ba97 (Reply 12):
is only the q400 in production? the 300/200/100 of the dash 8 are gone?

The last Q300 left Downsview on August 20.

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RE: Commercial Turboprops Still In Production

Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:36 pm

I am almost sure the Embraer EMB-120 is no longer in mass production .. My impression was that this 30+ years old design quietly disappeared about 10 years ago?
 
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Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:53 pm

Why are you answering to a five year old post?
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:21 am

Quoting rlwynn (Reply 21):
Why are you answering to a five year old post?

I wonder too...

But anyways...
Currently:
ATR42-600
ATR72-600
Dash8-Q400
DHC-6-400
RUAG/HAL Do-228
CN-235
C-212
MA-60
C208 Caravan
F406
An140
Il-114 (?)

Did I miss anythign?
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:41 pm

I think you would have to add the PC-12 while it is used as an airliner also.

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Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:21 am

Last I heard, the EMB-120R is still available to order, allegedly.
 
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Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:45 pm

GippsAero (Gippsland) has the GA-10 Airvan in production. Basically a stretched GA-8 with a turboprop. They also have plans to bring the Nomad back into production.

Pacific Aerospace is manufacturing the P-750. Kinda like a low wing Pilatus Porter.

The Pilatus PC-6 Porter (with its younger brother, the PC-12) is also in production.

Viking Air is still converting DHC-2 Beaver's to the DHC-2T. They also have some letters of intent but have yet to start production (as far as I know) on the DHC-5NG Buffalo.
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Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:42 am

So, the choices can be categorized to this?

Pressurized Multi-Engine:
An140
ATR42-600
ATR72-600
CN-235
Dash8-Q400
Il-114 (?)
MA-60
Super King Air (I've hardly seen this in the commuter role)

Unpressurized Multi-Engine
BN-2T Islander (T-prop variant)
C-212-300/400
DHC-6-400
RUAG/HAL Do-228
F406
Let-410
PZL-M-28
Harbin Y-12

Pressurized Single-Engine commercial
PC-12

Un-Pressurized Single-Engine commercial
C208 Caravan
Kodiak
PAC 750XL
PC-6
GA-10

Note: Non-Commuter/bush transport aircraft not included.

Any additions?
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Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:31 pm

Quoting mandala499 (Reply 26):
MA-60

Quite a while yet before the MA700 reaches production, but AVIC has already announced it as the MA-60's would-be successor.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getasset.aspx?itemid=53892

Quote:
"AVIC has formally launched the XIan MA700 programme and expects the turboprop to enter service in 2019.

The new 70-seat turboprop is positioned to best serve medium-sized markets within a 800km (500 mile) range. The aircraft will be able to operate in high temperature, high altitude environments and will be capable of frequent short take-offs and landings. Its fuel consumption, operation and maintenance costs are also expected to be lower than its peers in the same category, AVIC said at a recent press conference in Beijing.

The aircraft will be able to cruise at above 320kt (600km/h) and climb to its cruising altitude within 13 minutes."


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Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:36 pm

I suppose we could add the 9 passenger Evektor EV-55 to the list of un-pressurized multi's. While not in production yet, testing seems to be progressing well, and it 's available for order.

http://www.evektor.cz/Data/Sites/2/Files/banners/ev-55-banner04_07.jpg
 
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Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:03 am

Quoting ElpinDAB (Reply 28):

I suppose we could add the 9 passenger Evektor EV-55 to the list of un-pressurized multi's. While not in production yet, testing seems to be progressing well, and it 's available for order.

Wonder why they went with PT-6's and not the indeginous-to-the-Czech-Republic Walter engine?
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Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:30 pm

Quoting cornutt (Reply 24):
Last I heard, the EMB-120R is still available to order, allegedly.

The E-120 is technically still available for purchase, although there hasn't been one built in over 10 years. As long as there's support for the E-145 assembly line (and thus the tooling,) there still exists the possibility of a new built E-120 since they share a large amount of design and parts. However, even if you could get a new airframe, and special order the engines, you'd have to scrounge around the world to find servicable prop blades, as Hamilton Standard stopped production soon after the last E-120 rolled of the line.
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Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:12 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 31):
However, even if you could get a new airframe, and special order the engines, you'd have to scrounge around the world to find servicable prop blades, as Hamilton Standard stopped production soon after the last E-120 rolled of the line.

Why? There should probably still be a market for a few replacement blades a year...prop blades get dinged by rocks all the time   Does the Brasilia use metal or composite blades?
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Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:10 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 32):
Why? There should probably still be a market for a few replacement blades a year...prop blades get dinged by rocks all the time   Does the Brasilia use metal or composite blades?

From what I understand, there WAS a market to make replacement blades, but not anymore. Now, they're all cannibalized from older, retired/scrapped frames.

The Brasilia's blades are composite with an aluminum rod core.
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Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:48 pm

Quoting ElpinDAB (Reply 28):
I suppose we could add the 9 passenger Evektor EV-55 to the list of un-pressurized multi's. While not in production yet, testing seems to be progressing well, and it 's available for order.
http://www.evektor.cz/Data/Sites/2/Files/banners/ev-55-banner08-smartdeck_07.jpg
http://www.evektor.cz/Data/Sites/2/F...rs/ev-55-banner08-smartdeck_07.jpg

Seems like a good option for charter operators doing runs from MNL to ENI, MPH, Balesin or Panglao - 600nm @ 2,400lbs payload.....

http://www.evektor.cz/en/outback/performance.aspx

The high-set wing is a plus on semi-prepared airstrips. Only drawback is during the typhoon season...but most other GA aircraft will also sit in hangars or stay tied-down outside.

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Quoting KELPkid (Reply 29):
Wonder why they went with PT-6's and not the indeginous-to-the-Czech-Republic Walter engine?

Most probably to enhance global appeal...given P&W's worldwide support base.
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:38 am

Quoting Fabo (Reply 18):
That reminded me, together with TR i read today, Il-114 might still kind of be in production.

That line is closed. Last airframe was delivered to HY in 2012 and the plant in Tashkent was turned over to more mundane manufacturing processes:

http://en.ria.ru/business/20120613/174001250.html
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:43 pm

Why would an operator buy a King Air 200/300 as a commuter when the Caravan would do the same job but cheaper? How would a King Air commuter seat?

I would think even a Pilatus PC-12 would be cheaper to operate than a King Air. The King Air is a stout aircraft though.

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Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:32 pm

Quoting william (Reply 36):

Why would an operator buy a King Air 200/300 as a commuter when the Caravan would do the same job but cheaper? How would a King Air commuter seat?

A) King Air is pressurized. Caravan isn't.
B) That second engine subjects it to a lot less restrictions on passenger carriage under the US FAR's (and apparently, Europe, too, read the earlier posts in detail).

Quoting william (Reply 36):
would think even a Pilatus PC-12 would be cheaper to operate than a King Air.

You might be suprised. The PC-12 is one expensive turkey to operate   No US part 135 operator can make it work for scheduled service, because with 9 pax (the limit under US FAR's for a single engined aircraft), no one can profitably operate it apart from EAS subsidies.
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:13 pm

I thought that Indonesian Aerospace was planning a 19-seater based on the CASA 212? Does anyone know what the glass cockpit is for the F406?

[Edited 2014-01-29 14:22:04]

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Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:35 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 37):
Quoting william (Reply 36):
would think even a Pilatus PC-12 would be cheaper to operate than a King Air.

You might be suprised. The PC-12 is one expensive turkey to operate   No US part 135 operator can make it work for scheduled service, because with 9 pax (the limit under US FAR's for a single engined aircraft), no one can profitably operate it apart from EAS subsidies.

At least for the Caravan, you can get a FAR Part 23 waiver and fly with 14 pax. No idea how hard that it to get though, or if that is possible on the PC-12.

On a related note. Susi Air in Indonesia flies the Caravan with 14 pax but if memory serves this means they must have two pilots.
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:29 am

Does Lockheed-Martin still offer the commercial version of the C-130 (L-100)?
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:51 pm

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 34):
Most probably to enhance global appeal...given P&W's worldwide support base.

PT6 is, arguably, the best turboprop ever made. Kind of like Vans RV marketing says "We're not the best at anything, but we're good at everything."

Quoting william (Reply 36):
Why would an operator buy a King Air 200/300 as a commuter when the Caravan would do the same job but cheaper? How would a King Air commuter seat?

I would think even a Pilatus PC-12 would be cheaper to operate than a King Air. The King Air is a stout aircraft though.

The Caravan is cheaper then the PC12 which is cheaper than the King Air (200/300/350/1900) to operate. Up here in Alaska you'll find all three flying side by side (and throw in the F406 Caravan II and Cessna 441 Conquest II). Up here, a lot of the charter work is for oil companies. Many require their employees to be on twin engine, turbine powered aircraft (same for helo's). So these people charter the Cessna 441's and King Air's to move people about (as well as Twin Otter's and Casa 212's). These King Air's and such are equipped with commuter interior's. There is an outfit over at MRI that flies 2 Navajo's, 1 Caravan (Less than a year old I might add!) and a PC12. From talking to my buddies there, they seem to like their set up. Grant Aviation here in ANC (with bases in the bush) fly C207's, PA31's, C208's, and King Air 200's. Again, the caravan fulfills a role, but can't fill the role of 8 passengers, 700 miles, over water.

My main example of where the longer range, more expensive aircraft, is needed is Anchorage - Dutch Harbor (Unalaska). At 792 miles, much over water and inhospitable land, the only thing able to to it is the King Air (& B1900), PC12 (which some companies can't charter due to company regs), Saab 340 (at a severe weight restriction) and the C441. Sure, other planes can do this run, but not financially feasible.

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Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:56 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 39):
At least for the Caravan, you can get a FAR Part 23 waiver and fly with 14 pax. No idea how hard that it to get though, or if that is possible on the PC-12.

Sure, but you aren't getting a scheduled 135 waiver for that, so its irrelevant. You're at 9 seats, PC-12 or 208 regardless. More than that you've got to be 121, which specifically excludes single engine aircraft.

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Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:54 am

Quoting atct (Reply 41):

PT6 is, arguably, the best turboprop ever made.

Indeed. Makes one wonder if they'd also ask for license-production of PW150As in Russia should local assembly of Q400s push through... that would require a big volume run          .

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...e-rules-for-q400-operators-395401/


Considering (with An-140 and Il-114 moribund) current production TP airliners are limited by default to ATRs/DHCs...are EADS protecting their smallest twinjets by not agreeing to launch the conceptual ATR-92?.....

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....e-xml/AW_01_27_2014_p14-655696.xml

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Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:41 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 40):
Does Lockheed-Martin still offer the commercial version of the C-130 (L-100)?

There's no reference to a commercial version on their website. Various sources say they were considering a civil version of the C-130J in the late 1990s but didn't pursue it in order to concentrate on military orders. I expect demand would be very low.
 
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Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:10 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 44):
There's no reference to a commercial version on their website. Various sources say they were considering a civil version of the C-130J in the late 1990s but didn't pursue it in order to concentrate on military orders. I expect demand would be very low.

There may be enough used military ones out there that a commercial user could buy, at a pretty cheap price.
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Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:24 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 45):
There may be enough used military ones out there that a commercial user could buy, at a pretty cheap price.

But if the C-130J was never FAA certified, then the point is moot. No one is going to let you fly cargo around on an experimental certificate   I know earlier C-130 variants were certified, but I'm not sure that Lockheed ever did that for the C-130J. And it is quite a different beast from earlier variants.
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Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:28 pm

Surprised nobody has mentioned the Dornier 328! Available as both a turboprop or jet engined model.

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Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:15 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 46):
Quoting mayor (Reply 45):There may be enough used military ones out there that a commercial user could buy, at a pretty cheap price.
But if the C-130J was never FAA certified, then the point is moot. No one is going to let you fly cargo around on an experimental certificate I know earlier C-130 variants were certified, but I'm not sure that Lockheed ever did that for the C-130J. And it is quite a different beast from earlier variants.

But what I meant was that if there are enough used ones out there to satisfy demand (which probably isn't all that much), there would be no need to even market a commercial version of the J model or get it certified, commercially.
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RE: Commercial Turboprops Still In Production

Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:16 pm

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 47):
Surprised nobody has mentioned the Dornier 328! Available as both a turboprop or jet engined model.

Didn't Dornier go bankrupt shortly after starting construction of the 728Jet prototype? Did someone pick up the ashes of the company while no one was paying attention?   
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