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Longest Air Accident Investigation

Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:37 am

I believe that the TWA-800 accident was the longest investigation by the NTSB and other agencies as far as aircraft accidents go, unless if there was one longer than that of TWA-800, anyone know?? What was the conclusion of the Air France Airbus A330 that crashed after taking off from Brazil last year in 2009??
 
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:57 am

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
I believe that the TWA-800 accident was the longest investigation by the NTSB and other agencies as far as aircraft accidents go, unless if there was one longer than that of TWA-800, anyone know??

TWA800 was definitely the largest, but I'm not sure it was the longest. That "honour" might to to PanAm 103, especially if you include the resulting trials in the investigation.

Quoting propilot83 (Thread starter):
What was the conclusion of the Air France Airbus A330 that crashed after taking off from Brazil last year in 2009??

There isn't one...the investigation isn't complete.

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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:58 am

Longest investigation has to be Amelia Erhart. It won't end until the plane is found.
 
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:38 pm

Hey

Surely any incident that has not been solved by a countries formal air crash investigation board remains open until the time it is solved?

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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:43 pm

TWA800 is remains an "open ended investigation". Four tons of the aircraft still remain under the Atlantic.
 
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:45 pm

...so much for english!   
 
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:05 pm

It took the Cameroun authorities just a few days less than 3 years to release the report on the Kenya Airways 737-800 crash soon after takeoff from Douala on May 5, 2007, killing all 114 aboard. The report was finally issued April 28, 2010.

Links to report here.
http://www.ccaa.aero/surete-et-secur.../384,technical-investigation-.html

Note the CVR transcript is easier to read in the separate Excel file (Annex 4) than in the report itself where part of it is unreadable.

The first officer was only 23, and only had 831 total flying hours, including 170 on the 737 (157 on the 737-700 and 57 on the 737-800).

Another interesting thing that caught my eye is that the 108 passengers were of 26 different nationalities.
 
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:21 pm

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 4):
TWA800 is remains an "open ended investigation". Four tons of the aircraft still remain under the Atlantic.

Yea you know I heard about that also, that the investigation can be reopened or it has not been completely solved yet, because they haven't found what caused the spark that ignited the center fuel tank.
 
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:12 am

Quoting propilot83 (Reply 7):
they haven't found what caused the spark that ignited the center fuel tank.

They've also said they're not going to...there was no conclusive evidence from the wreckage and they're not trying to recover anymore. All circumstantial evidence points to a short on the FQIS wiring, but they can't prove it.

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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:14 am

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 8):
They've also said they're not going to...there was no conclusive evidence from the wreckage and they're not trying to recover anymore. All circumstantial evidence points to a short on the FQIS wiring, but they can't prove it.

Yea I know, its just a tough call, unfortunately, mankind wont be able to solve every mystery on this earth.
 
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:35 am

Quoting propilot83 (Reply 9):
unfortunately, mankind wont be able to solve every mystery on this earth.

Probably not. I have high hopes for quantum entanglement though. 
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:45 pm

Quoting propilot83 (Reply 9):
Yea I know, its just a tough call, unfortunately, mankind wont be able to solve every mystery on this earth.

But the point is, the investigation is closed. A final report has been issued. (Reports can always be amended, but usually aren't, and the investigation is closed until and unless it's reopened.)

IIRC the longest active investigation by the NTSB was the multiple accidents and incidents caused by the 737 rudder actuators.
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:33 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 11):
IIRC the longest active investigation by the NTSB was the multiple accidents and incidents caused by the 737 rudder actuators.

That was the investigation that sprung to my mind as well. There were what, 5 years between UA 585 and the near crash of W9 517?
 
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:17 am

SA295 crashed into the Indian Ocean on 28 November 1987 and the cause of the accident has never been established.
After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
 
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RE: Longest Air Accident Investigation

Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:40 pm

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 11):
But the point is, the investigation is closed. A final report has been issued. (Reports can always be amended, but usually aren't, and the investigation is closed until and unless it's reopened.)

IIRC the longest active investigation by the NTSB was the multiple accidents and incidents caused by the 737 rudder actuators.

Yea the TWA-800 investigation has been closed, however if anything re-surfaces in the future, then they can amend it like you said, but highly unlikely, according to what documentary I saw, the last time, the NTSB was looking for the ignition source or wire as they called it that caused the spark in the center fuel tank.

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