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DFWHeavy
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What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:16 pm

Hello,

I'm flying LAX-RAR tomorrow night.

I have a simple question. If the weather is bad in RAR and a diversion is needed, where does the flight divert to? Is it PPT?


Thanks!
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:09 pm

I'd suppose it depends on where you are... HNL could also be a point if you're early in the flight.
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:17 pm

Don't know what NZ policy is, but US carriers along with some nations can go without an alternate to islands.

Simpy use island fuel reserves (120min endurance) and be done with it. Basically you hope any issues are cleared up and you can land within the 2hour window.

PPT is 700+miles away, so you'd likely be carrying excessive fuel to fly there and still have adequate reserve remaining.
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:08 pm

HNL for the middle part of the flight, then most likely APW for the conclusion part of the flight.
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:37 am

You have probably already arrived at RAR, but in a real emergency at the end of the flight they could always land at Aitutaki. It has a huge runway courtesy of the US Navy Seabees in WWII.
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:19 pm

Quoting aklrno (Reply 4):
It has a huge runway courtesy of the US Navy Seabees in WWII.

AIT has a 5,920ft rwy.

That'd be a tight fit for a 767/777.
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:19 am

With very little fuel and no other choices, I suspect it would work. Getting it back out would be the challenge.
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:17 am

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 5):
AIT has a 5,920ft rwy.

That'd be a tight fit for a 767/777.

It'd be enough if it came down to it.

Getting it out would mean going empty with minimal fuel, but it'd work also.

-Mir
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:51 pm

Well, we just got back from RAR. It was an exciting flight and yes we also went to Aitutaki.

Departing out of RAR coming home was a thrill. We used up damn near all of the runway (7600 ft). Great takeoff.

Also, we landed at RAR in howling winds and rain. We made a very firm touchdown, but not unsafe by any means. Gotta get that bird on the ground there  
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:42 pm

This view might be helpful:
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=lax-rar...m&SG=450&SU=kts&E=60&EV=410&EU=kts

The light circles are ETOPS-60 range rings...obviously you were flying outside those but they serve to show where the ETOPS diversion airports are.

It looks like Honolulu then Kiribati then French Polynesia.

Tom.
 
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RE: What Is LAX-RAR Diversion Airport?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:57 pm

I was looking at a Boeing ETOPS presentation. One route was AKL-LAX . The presentation showed a point equidistant from ITO and LAP. For a 77E ETOP180 it was 1350nm ESAD 85% winds. A 767 is liking different but so long as the distance was not more than ~1200nm the diversion airports might be the same since the AKL-LAX track is very close to RAR-LAX.

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