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What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:00 pm

On a news website, I just got across the picture of Franz Blankart, a Swiss diplomat.



Here he is seen before flying to BRU in order to sign the treaty on the European Economic Area - the photo was taken in April 1992. (Ironically, the later non-membership, decided in a popular vote, was a factor in the demise of SR, which put her at a disadvantage compared to LH, AF and the other European airlines).

(By the way, the EWR on the airplane is the German abbreviation for the EEA.)


Now... what is this hole for?

Here's another picture from this Saab 340:






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RE: What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:34 pm

I used them to hand up final paperwork after the engines were turning. Sometimes the pilot would request updated wx and forecasts at the destination and if the printer was a little slow, it came in very handy. Otherwise, the flight would take a delay to shut down #1, open the door, restart (if a cool down period wasn't needed).
I believe, it was also used to clean the windshield if a ladder wasn't available in an outstation without maintainers.
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:18 pm

It's so you can check to see if the the pitot heat is working!
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:24 pm

Quoting exFWAOONW (Reply 1):

Ah, thank you! Does the job and is extremely low-tech.


 
Quoting tb727 (Reply 2):

OUCH! That thing is hot!!!

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RE: What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:22 pm

The term that is often used to refer to it is the "whiskey hatch."
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:09 pm

If I remember correctly, ATR's have the same feature?

Anybody have any photos of what the hatch looks like from the inside?
 
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:06 pm

Its great for moving paperwork thru.....since the window does not open.....BTW.....where is the nearest escape hatch.
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:18 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 6):
ince the window does not open.....BTW.....where is the nearest escape hatch.

Hatch in the roof over the cockpit, similar to the CRJ.
 
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:01 am

Paperwork, we used it all the time at Republic Express !
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:31 pm

Simplifies drive-thru fast food access.
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:44 am

We used to receive our final weight and balance paperwork through this 'hole' sign it and return it to the agent.


Very useful and a thoughtful design feature from the thoughtful Swedish.


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RE: What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:35 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):

OK.....I wonder if the sliding window would have been preffered though.....minus the added mechanism.
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:13 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
OK.....I wonder if the sliding window would have been preffered though.....minus the added mechanism.

Just speculating here, but methinks it is much more weight to have an entire sliding window than to make a small hatch. Larger airliners probably have a sliding window since the side of the fuselage is too far from the pilots to make this arrangement practical.
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:41 pm

We use it all the time with our sole Dornier 328 customer, the ATR's have it as well! Quite useful to get the final papers as was mentioned  
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:49 pm

We use it mostly for ventilation on the ground, when cockpit temperatures reach 45+ degrees C. It is simple and unbreakable.
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:56 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):

OK.....I wonder if the sliding window would have been preffered though.....minus the added mechanism.

There is no sliding window on the Saab 340, just an overhead hatch for escape.
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:08 pm

Quoting Dufo (Reply 14):
We use it mostly for ventilation on the ground, when cockpit temperatures reach 45+ degrees C. It is simple and unbreakable

Why not run the AC or use the ground AC Cart.....Mx has its needs too  
Quoting Max Q (Reply 15):

There is no sliding window on the Saab 340, just an overhead hatch for escape.

I know.....I was asking about an option....
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:16 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 16):
Why not run the AC or use the ground AC Cart.....Mx has its needs too

No chance for this luxury as we operate the freighter  
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RE: What's This Hole For?

Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:12 pm

Quoting Dufo (Reply 17):

No chance for this luxury as we operate the freighter

Same here .....  
maybe we can use the excuse that the electronics need the cooling  
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