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gregarious119
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Does Anyone Know ILS Category 1B?

Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:36 pm

This NOTAM has been posted for RDG (Reading, PA) for a little while now:

!RDG 08/004 RDG NAV ILS RWY 36 CHANGED TO CAT 1B 1408131715-PERM

Can anyone out there find or provide a definition for Cat 1B? So far, all of us are stumped here where I work at the airport what the actual change is (it was just a standard Cat 1 ILS previously).
 
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RE: Does Anyone Know ILS Category 1B?

Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:25 pm

Never heard of CAT1B. Maybe this is about SA CAT 1 which might be available on the runway.

With an SA (special authorization) CAT 1, you can basically land with a lower DH and RVR value on a CAT 1 apprch, down to a DH of 150ft and RVR 1400ft, if you meet the OPS SPEC requirements.

Checked on airnav.com, and no such plates for Reading so far. Still showing the ones that expired at 0900Z this morning. They should update with the new ones any day now.

It is only CATIII approaches that are subdivided into CATIIIa, b or c. CAT I and II approaches don't have that.

[Edited 2015-01-08 06:30:26]
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RE: Does Anyone Know ILS Category 1B?

Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:32 pm

Hopefully it got them better minimums.... right now the ILS has minimums at that of a GPS approach....

http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1413/00627IL36.PDF

Typically an ILS has minimums of 1/2 mile visibility and 200 ft ceilings.

I may be a little off on these but here is a rough breakdown of the types of ILS's

CAT-I 200 ft and 1/2 mile
CAT-I Enhanced 200 ft and 1800-2400 ft RVR
CAT-II 100 ft and 1200 RVR
CAT-IIIa/b/c - 600/700 ft RVR
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michi
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RE: Does Anyone Know ILS Category 1B?

Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:15 pm

Look here:

http://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/order/6750.24e.pdf

And a list of US airports with it's performance classification's:

http://avnwww.jccbi.gov/pls/datasheet_prd/PRO_ilsperform_rpt


In the end nothing a pilot has to worry about.


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RE: Does Anyone Know ILS Category 1B?

Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:02 pm

Here is a nice document from the ICAO:

http://www.caa.md/files/2013_12/543.pdf

Check out appendix C:

ILS FACILITY CLASSIFICATION AND DOWNGRADING

The ILS facility classification system provides a more comprehensive method of describing ILS performance than the simple CAT I/II/III classification. An example of an ILS facility classification is “III/E/4”. ILS facility classification is described in Annex 10, Volume 1.


In short: ILS CAT 1b is a facility classification.


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