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Cessna 172 Range

Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:10 am

I can't help but wonder if this is an April Fools joke. Or maybe an error.

13 hours 37 minute flight from Islip, NY to Pensacola, FL. That strikes me as a bit long for the Skyhawk.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N3544G
 
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:22 am

N3544G is a 2001 vintage 172R, which, according to Wiki has a range of 600 nmi.

Unless it has an auxilliary tank fitted, it needed to stop somewhere along the way ...

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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:17 pm

Zoom in on the Flightaware map, you can see that it looks like a local flight around Islip
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:03 pm

Also probably not many C172s landing at NAS Pensacola.
 
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:07 pm

NPA may be something ATC punched in for a local waypoint/typo for one for what looks to be an IFR training flight in the 172. I've seen it happen before.
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:12 pm

Quoting BreninTW (Reply 1):
N3544G is a 2001 vintage 172R, which, according to Wiki has a range of 600 nmi.

Too many variables here to go by Wikipedia. Starting with: long range tanks or standard tanks? Also, you can fly the aircraft with wheel pants on (most flight schools remove those) and at max endurance speed (S-L-O-W!). You can also add ferry tanks to the aircraft (uncommon unless you're going to cross an ocean with it...). Plus, there are so many aftermarket STC's for the 172, you have no idea which ones have been added...  
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:54 pm

Quoting thegman (Reply 3):
Also probably not many C172s landing at NAS Pensacola.

I'm sure that they have a flight club...most good airbases (Navy or Air Force, even Coast Guard) do!
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:57 pm

Quoting dragon6172 (Reply 2):
Zoom in on the Flightaware map, you can see that it looks like a local flight around Islip

If you look at the altitude or speed history graphs it's actually four separate flights around KISP during the day.
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:10 pm

I thought with many of these smaller/slower GA planes it isn't fuel capacity that determines range but bladder capacity.
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:02 am

I've flown a 172 from central Florida to southern Massachussets and back. However we did two fuel stops each way. I'm guessing it can be done with one stop but I'd be worried about fuel reserves.

Quoting desertjets (Reply 8):

I thought with many of these smaller/slower GA planes it isn't fuel capacity that determines range but bladder capacity.

Quite right.  Also you get kinda stiff all over after a while.
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:38 am

This pilot did 24 hrs non stop in a C172

http://www.ipilot.com.au
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:10 am

Quoting zeke (Reply 10):
This pilot did 24 hrs non stop in a C172

http://www.ipilot.com.au

Wow.

The 170 gallon auxiliary tank increases the fuel capacity by more than 4x (from 52 gallons to 222 gallons). He must have been right up against MTOW even with the seats removed. Filled to the brim he would have been carrying 1332lb of fuel, more than half the take off TOW (2550lb).
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:29 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 11):

For ferry flights it is common to obtain a 25% overweight approval on light aircraft, essential crew only.
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:45 pm

Quoting zeke (Reply 12):

Zeke is correct. Here is an interesting account of a guy ferrying a Cessna 150 from the USA across the Atlantic to South Africa. His crossing was made even more interesting by the fact that he crossed via the Azores; most light aircraft transatlantic ferry flights take a northern route through Frobisher Bay, Greenland, Iceland, and then down through the UK.

http://www.cessna150-152.com/transatlantic.htm
 
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:41 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
I've flown a 172 from central Florida to southern Massachussets and back. However we did two fuel stops each way. I'm guessing it can be done with one stop but I'd be worried about fuel reserves.

Quoting desertjets (Reply 8):
I thought with many of these smaller/slower GA planes it isn't fuel capacity that determines range but bladder capacity.
Quite right. Also you get kinda stiff all over after a while.

And fatigued. The constant beating of the 4 cylinder opposed Lycoming gets to you eventually    The older 172's with the opposed 6 Continental were much better on long cross countries, as is the 182...and your headset might block out most of the noise, but the vibrations and harshness from the 4-banger Lycoming reverberate throughout the airframe   
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:48 pm

Quoting zeke (Reply 10):
This pilot did 24 hrs non stop in a C172

I believe there were 2 guys that flew a Cessna 150 for months without landing. The aircraft hangs off the ceiling in the LAS arrivals / baggage claim area.

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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:18 pm

Quoting tb727 (Reply 4):
NPA may be something ATC punched in for a local waypoint/typo for one for what looks to be an IFR training flight in the 172. I've seen it happen before.

This sounds plausible ... perhaps NPA stands for North Practice Area?
 
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RE: Cessna 172 Range

Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:12 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 15):
I believe there were 2 guys that flew a Cessna 150 for months without landing. The aircraft hangs off the ceiling in the LAS arrivals / baggage claim area.

It was an early production 172. With the Continental O-300A six cylinder engine.

Story here:

http://untoldvalor.blogspot.com/2008...t-flew-for-62-days-and-t-bird.html
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