I flew on the 727 and DC-9-30 and I remember how loud the reverse-thrust was on the 727 on landing as I was seated near the back; the DC-9 didn't seem as loud but maybe the DC-9 reverse-thrust was louder.
Never flew on the 737-200 Classic but it had similar engines like the 727 so I don't think there would be much of a difference in noise.
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Loudest Reverse-thrust On Landing
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Concorde must have had some of the noisiest thrust reversers.
Not sure if the Tu-144 was fitted with t/r -I believe it used a parachute.
Big fan engines will always be quieter.
Not sure if the Tu-144 was fitted with t/r -I believe it used a parachute.
Big fan engines will always be quieter.
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| Quoting bmacleod (Thread starter): Never flew on the 737-200 Classic but it had similar engines like the 727 so I don't think there would be much of a difference in noise. |
I'm sure the position of the engines would have made a difference to passenger noise levels, on a 727 the engines are behind and above the main passenger cabin whereas on the 737-200 a number of passengers would only be a couple of feet away from those reversers, I certainly remember them being incredibly loud!
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The Il-62 was one of the noisiest planes in the world for sure... only engines 1 and 4 have reverses but they can even be used in flight. AN 26 was very noisy too.
The old planes with low bypass ratio were very noisy usually, modern engines are much better in terms of consume, noise and pollution.
The old planes with low bypass ratio were very noisy usually, modern engines are much better in terms of consume, noise and pollution.
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The loudest I have experienced was in the back of the Ilyushin 62. It was intimidatingly loud, combined with the whole aircraft shaking and rattling.
Never got close to anything like that. I've flown the 727 twice but I don't remember the reverse-thrust, actually the reversers might not have been used on those flights as I'm sure I'd remember it!
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Never got close to anything like that. I've flown the 727 twice but I don't remember the reverse-thrust, actually the reversers might not have been used on those flights as I'm sure I'd remember it!
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| Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 2): I'm sure the position of the engines would have made a difference to passenger noise levels, on a 727 the engines are behind and above the main passenger cabin whereas on the 737-200 a number of passengers would only be a couple of feet away from those reversers, I certainly remember them being incredibly loud! |
Yes the Jurassic was quite loud. The turbines were actually mounted under the wing and the TR's extended aft of the wing.
Seated directly aft of the wing was the best place for a wing watcher like myself. You could watch all the workings of the flaps, reversers, spoilers and ailerons. The sound effects were good too.
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On the outside, one of the loudest aircraft I recall was the tiny Piaggio PD-808 of the Italian Air Force.
Derived from a Douglas business jet project, this small aircraft has been used for many years by the AMI (Italian Air Force) as liason, VIP and EW Platform.
I used to live in Ciampino, nearby Rome, home of the 31st Wing (VIP Transport) and those small planes were so incredibly loud on landing and using the reverse that you could hear them all over the city.
If I remember correctly they even had brakechutes.
They were definitely louder than the bigger DC9-32 also used by the 31st Wing
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Derived from a Douglas business jet project, this small aircraft has been used for many years by the AMI (Italian Air Force) as liason, VIP and EW Platform.
I used to live in Ciampino, nearby Rome, home of the 31st Wing (VIP Transport) and those small planes were so incredibly loud on landing and using the reverse that you could hear them all over the city.
If I remember correctly they even had brakechutes.
They were definitely louder than the bigger DC9-32 also used by the 31st Wing
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I'd go with the VC10.
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Loudest I've heard was on the Jetstar with the old style engines. Only saw it once but it was enough that I'm sure it could have broke windows if any were around.
Clear skies and strong tail winds.
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| Quoting bmacleod (Thread starter): Never flew on the 737-200 Classic but it had similar engines like the 727 so I don't think there would be much of a difference in noise. |
Sitting next to the thrust reversers on a 737-100/200 was crazy loud. It almost points the thrust right at you!
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I don't remember VC10 or 727 but the 737 classic was hectic, as mentioned above if you were in the wrong row you could look straight into the clamshell!
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I just read in another post about the Lear 20 Series being really loud.
Were they even louder in reverse ?
Were they even louder in reverse ?
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My loudest experience was on the Tu-134.
I flew the IL-62 during the same week (Hello Air Koryo!) and it felt quiter than the 134.
Really remarkable is the fact how quiet the IL-62 is in the front. It is like heaven, I was impressed!
I flew the IL-62 during the same week (Hello Air Koryo!) and it felt quiter than the 134.
Really remarkable is the fact how quiet the IL-62 is in the front. It is like heaven, I was impressed!
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| Quoting Okie (Reply 5): Yes the Jurassic was quite loud. The turbines were actually mounted under the wing and the TR's extended aft of the wing. Seated directly aft of the wing was the best place for a wing watcher like myself. You could watch all the workings of the flaps, reversers, spoilers and ailerons. The sound effects were good too |
Loved sitting just behind the wings on a 737-200, too. The TRs would rock you. Plus, watching all of the mechanical workings of the wing and engine. Great.
For similar reasons also enjoyed sitting behind the wing on a 727. Watching that wing basically unfold as everything extended for landings was always entertaining.
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| Quoting andz (Reply 11): I don't remember VC10 or 727 but the 737 classic was hectic, as mentioned above if you were in the wrong row you could look straight into the clamshell! |
732 was also very loud on takeoff from the rear seats. It got a little better after they reduced power after takeoff. Still louder in my experience that any rear-engined aircraft where, even when seated at the rear, the engine outlets are behind you.
Good example a 732 using reverse thrust here (6000 ft runway).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6ZCPYySKgU
Air Inuit 732 gravel-kit equipped combi landing at Kuujjuaq (YVP) in northern Quebec (population about 2,500), first stop on a charter flight to YUL carrying workers from a remote mine site 300 miles further north. Next stop Val-d'Or (YVO) 800 miles further south and then another 260 miles to YUL. Workers at those remote mine locations often work 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, and are flown home every 2 weeks.
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Ahhh.....the NW MD-80's backing up from the gate at MSP.....whoo hoo!!!
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| Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16): Good example a 732 using reverse thrust here (6000 ft runway). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6ZCP...ySKgU |
Thanks for the link to my video
I'm still commuting on that plane every couple weeks. It can get pretty loud when they go above idle reverse, but even at idle, it does surprise you. Sitting by the emergency exit feels like first class compared to just a couple rows behind heh.
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| Quoting bmacleod (Reply 19): Curious...were they running short on pushback tractors? |
Powerbacking was common at one time on DC-9s, MD-80s, 727s... it saved 1 ground crew member and took much less time than waiting for the tug to connect/disconnect.
Eastern, Air Canada, Northwest, MidEx, Midway, etc all used it... it was interesting as a passenger when it happened!
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| Quoting migair54 (Reply 3): |
Hi:
Agree with An-26 (and late An-24 versions). Cause, APU installed on them is a TUMANSKY RU-19 A300, which is a small noisy jet engine used as TO booster / Aircraft Climb Supplemental Power / Power supply in case of Main Engine(s) Fault [to complete flight]. / Auxiliary Power Unit -electrical generator- , located on RH Power Plant- LG Nacelle, with a Exhaust to short for Noise's reduction.
For comparision: RU-16 power is stated at 35.8( 800 lbf) , while main engines AI-25 have a Maximum thrust: 16.9 kN (3,800 lbf).each. During engine Mx run or A/C TO, Mx or Flight Mechanic should use plenty of Fuel Cross Feed to keep Wings leveled.
AN-26, which has been designed as a "Small Troops/ Cargo plane, requiered a "Military Power" from onset.
And next on list: early TU-154 (TU-154B2), powered by NK-8-2U a very dependable but thirty and noisy eng.
[img] https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/РУ-19А-300#/media/Файл%3ARA-46505_AI-24_AV-72T_RU-19A-300.jpg [/img].
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I love hearing trust reversers. I think the loudest ones are the planes that have JT8D engines
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After having flown quite some aircraft, the lojdest would be for sure the TU-154M, and only the M version with more than 85% lnload and a short runway or the need to break immediately. It is loud and shaky and uncomparable. In my last TU5 flight the pilot did me a favour in using them to the max upon landing. Russia is just so different... I love it so much!
https://youtu.be/IkExVUJ0ciI?t=26m50s I hope the link works.
An-28 is actually loud as well, same as An-24. Tu-134 only whines a bit and IL-62 is rather silent with only the outer engines with reversers.
The 707 was noisy as well, 727 nlt so much.
The loudest aircraft of all I have been on was IrAn-140. I flew on GPA which crashed a few days later with the same crew...
https://youtu.be/IkExVUJ0ciI?t=26m50s I hope the link works.
An-28 is actually loud as well, same as An-24. Tu-134 only whines a bit and IL-62 is rather silent with only the outer engines with reversers.
The 707 was noisy as well, 727 nlt so much.
The loudest aircraft of all I have been on was IrAn-140. I flew on GPA which crashed a few days later with the same crew...
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