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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:43 pm

I’m thinking somewhat toward the MD-11/B747 dreams. The 650 and G7500 are pushing or exceeding the limits of airfields that their runway performance allow operations. Right now, Aspen, Naples, FL and Scottsdale, AZ are the fields which are off-limits in the US for 650/7500 types.

The speed and altitude range really separates bizjets from converted airliners. The A220 is F310-410 at M.80 where the purpose-built 7500 starts at F410 and ends cruise potentially for the last hour or so at F510 cruising at M.85 to M.90 and has much greater range than any A220 with aux tanks.
 
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:07 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
I’m thinking somewhat toward the MD-11/B747 dreams. The 650 and G7500 are pushing or exceeding the limits of airfields that their runway performance allow operations. Right now, Aspen, Naples, FL and Scottsdale, AZ are the fields which are off-limits in the US for 650/7500 types.

The speed and altitude range really separates bizjets from converted airliners. The A220 is F310-410 at M.80 where the purpose-built 7500 starts at F410 and ends cruise potentially for the last hour or so at F510 cruising at M.85 to M.90 and has much greater range than any A220 with aux tanks.

Not to mention you can get a much more spacious interior on a WB or even BBJ 737 / ACJ 320 than a Global or G650. For me, a lot more room for (in the future) the wife and others, and kids to play around, while myself and my co-pilots are flying.
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:41 pm

I do not enjoy flying but I do love watching movements at different airports. I love the noise and the smells and seeing the different registration numbers. If money were no object, I would buy a couple of different air frames, buy some land, and convert them to a resort. I would turn a 747SP into my own personal home.
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:36 am

asr0dzjq wrote:
GalaxyFlyer wrote:
I’m thinking somewhat toward the MD-11/B747 dreams. The 650 and G7500 are pushing or exceeding the limits of airfields that their runway performance allow operations. Right now, Aspen, Naples, FL and Scottsdale, AZ are the fields which are off-limits in the US for 650/7500 types.

The speed and altitude range really separates bizjets from converted airliners. The A220 is F310-410 at M.80 where the purpose-built 7500 starts at F410 and ends cruise potentially for the last hour or so at F510 cruising at M.85 to M.90 and has much greater range than any A220 with aux tanks.

Not to mention you can get a much more spacious interior on a WB or even BBJ 737 / ACJ 320 than a Global or G650. For me, a lot more room for (in the future) the wife and others, and kids to play around, while myself and my co-pilots are flying.


You do get space which is why governments like them, private BBJs are fairly rare. The operators I’ve spoken with always mention they’re bringing their xxx small jet in (Falcon, Challenger) nail down prices for support and parking and then mention it might the BBJ. They’ve found out the prices are doubled or tripled if they started with BBJ. Slogging along with airliners is often disliked, as is getting stuck on cargo ramps or at airline airports when they could have landed at a closer airport. Private WBs are unheard of unless you are a sheik.

I wonder how the owners of the 21 BBJ MAXs are flying? There’s 190 737 BBJ and BBJ MAXs delivered compared with about 2,400 large cabin bizjets.

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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:57 pm

They should keep the 737NG line open to make BBJ's, especially in the midst of the Max fiasco.
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:12 pm

I am saving up for a 2005-2010 vintage C206. I did my PPL back in India on a C172. But once you fly the C206 you never go back! :) No matter what haters say - C206 is a beautiful aircraft.

A very capable beast too! Hauling 4 people and their golf bags and luggage halfway across America! Well almost!
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:35 am

asr0dzjq wrote:
They should keep the 737NG line open to make BBJ's, especially in the midst of the Max fiasco.


Too late, already changed over and a bunch of MAX BBJ’s delivered to completion centers or owners who can’t fly them.
 
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:56 pm

Vans Rv-4 (fun, modest aeros, and absence of pax)
Robin DR400 (local touring)
P-180 Avanti (Euro touring, visiting properties,junkets with friends)
Falcon 8X (getting around a bit more)

Simple tastes...
 
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:29 pm

Probably a turboprop PZL Wilga, if money is no object. However, a nice Carbon Cub or Aviat Husky would be just fine. On the topic of helicopters, definitely an MD530.
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:31 pm

Stickpusher wrote:
Vans Rv-4 (fun, modest aeros, and absence of pax)
Robin DR400 (local touring)
P-180 Avanti (Euro touring, visiting properties,junkets with friends)
Falcon 8X (getting around a bit more)

Simple tastes...

Yep. All of those sound good!
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:32 pm

Also, an MD-80 or B712 would be great.
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:21 pm

DALMD80 wrote:
Also, an MD-80 or B712 would be great.

If Boeing made a "727 Max 8" with three CF34-8C5, I would buy it.
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:15 am

asr0dzjq wrote:
DALMD80 wrote:
Also, an MD-80 or B712 would be great.

If Boeing made a "727 Max 8" with three CF34-8C5, I would buy it.


They did, it is called the Valsan conversion two -217s in #1&3 positions and D-17 in the center. A rocket ship until it runs out of wing in thirties depending on weight. The GEs would be horribly wrong for the race horse that a B727 is—like putting a 6 cylinder Detroit diesel in a Ford F-150 Raptor.

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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:15 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
asr0dzjq wrote:
DALMD80 wrote:
Also, an MD-80 or B712 would be great.

If Boeing made a "727 Max 8" with three CF34-8C5, I would buy it.


They did, it is called the Valsan conversion two -217s in #1&3 positions and D-17 in the center. A rocket ship until it runs out of wing in thirties depending on weight. The GEs would be horribly wrong for the race horse that a B727 is—like putting a 6 cylinder Detroit diesel in a Ford F-150 Raptor.

GF

Cool. Have both the last 727 built (if only) AND the last MD-11 built (if only). Now all that's left to be done is to make sure they're safe to fly for the next 100 (or 200, or 300) years.
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:48 pm

Caravan, citation x, F-16 . With maintenance and training package . How much runway does the F-16 need.
 
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:31 pm

Infinite because there are no civilian sales. Military users are happy with 8,000’ and A-gear or 9,000’ without A-gear. Really, there’s much better than the Citation X.
 
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:57 pm

An A330 in Aerolineas Argentinas' livery! Or anything with any Delta livery! Or an A340 in Iberia livery, anything on a Fed Ex or DHL or Iraqi livery in the latter, specially the 80s livery! Or a 747 in Avianca's 80s livery! Any of those would do it for me!
 
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:27 pm

AntonioMartin wrote:
An A330 in Aerolineas Argentinas' livery! Or anything with any Delta livery! Or an A340 in Iberia livery, anything on a Fed Ex or DHL or Iraqi livery in the latter, specially the 80s livery! Or a 747 in Avianca's 80s livery! Any of those would do it for me!

I would pick up the last MD-11 ever built, paint it in pseudo-SQ livery, and have one of my first flights be something like SIN-MUC. Or better yet, I wish there was a way for to make allow an airliner to "shape-shift" between liveries so that I could change it into a KLM-like livery (for example) without the need to repaint the whole thing.
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Re: Which Plane Would You Buy?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:09 pm

asr0dzjq wrote:
AntonioMartin wrote:
An A330 in Aerolineas Argentinas' livery! Or anything with any Delta livery! Or an A340 in Iberia livery, anything on a Fed Ex or DHL or Iraqi livery in the latter, specially the 80s livery! Or a 747 in Avianca's 80s livery! Any of those would do it for me!

I would pick up the last MD-11 ever built, paint it in pseudo-SQ livery, and have one of my first flights be something like SIN-MUC. Or better yet, I wish there was a way for to make allow an airliner to "shape-shift" between liveries so that I could change it into a KLM-like livery (for example) without the need to repaint the whole thing.

WOW< oh yeah!!

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