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btfarrwm wrote:I’ve had random failures that weren’t expected as well. I can’t remember specifics, but I also have failures “disabled” in the software. I have problems with random AP disengagement or unexpected maximum and unstable (uncommanded) control inputs. It’s unnerving to be on autopilot in straight-level cruise and see a 90-degree uncommanded deflection of the control yoke! I’ve also had random crashes but I have attributed those to all the plugins I’m running (G1000, ForeFlight/FlightEvents, Logitech, vPilot/PilotEdge). I’ve just written it off as the cost of trying to make a lot of hardware and third party software behave. I do most of my flying in a G1000 C172, so I can understand the frustration of a program crash at the end of a 6-hr flight…but that’s not how I expect to use my simulator.
Ps762 wrote:Hi Gonzalo,
Firstly many thanks for the thread an posts and I must also make my disclaimer in that I have not unfortunately been able to use any real flightsim since around 2014 maybe but I do have the memories of Fs98, Fs2004 and Fsx and can feel your pain even if from memories only(!) So although I can't fix anything maybe just a few thoughts if curious?:
1. That CTD (crash to desktop) must be very annoying especially since it doesn't seem to choose which systems get it. I can only say that I suffered pretty much the same all through my Fs2004 days. I totally loved Fs2004 though but I was constantly hitting Ctrl-S every 5 or 10 minutes because you never knew(!) I can only think looking back though that maybe moving from Windows98se to Xp at the time might have helped me but even then not sure. My system at the time was a homebuild Sempron with a Geforce 3 which I loved. And I loved Win98se too for the lightness and frames I got if only for the CTD's.
2. Funnily though when Fsx came out though even though I had numerous things I didn't like about it at first (the name even!) I did at least find it super-stable and never really got a crash. By now I was using just more plain PC's though like a Dell Vostro or basic Toshiba Windows 7 laptop. I never really managed to do more complex commercial flights in Fsx but for default aircraft and VFR with photoreal scenery and some nice smaller airfields I did get some happy flights for sure and I never had to worry about Ctrl-S constantly which was great!
3. Sorry also to hear about the random failure thing though as well and to be honest that issue sounds horrendous as well. Combined with the CTD as well phew. I mean that to me would not be playing happy with my whole immersion factor thing. One thing which I might find interesting though is if a person gets the failures but then restarts and loads up the same flight maybe if saved 5 minutes before will the failures come up again in exactly the same place? Hmm but still it wouldn't really help in the long term and as they used to say "where is the patch"?...
4. Again with the ATC behaviour that also doesn't sound like fun and I guess in my case I would have probably just tried to turn off the vehicles if that helped. But then not everyone like me maybe likes desolation...
5. And finally maybe a bit more seriously a question in that does the new MSFS do auto-upgrades and stuff like many new programs and if so does it work? And do they have a semi-good feedback system for sending them such info? Although of course I know MSFS is not exactly Edge or Office365 in terms of scale still I think they would hopefully be trying their best but then what do I know about programming PC games pretty much nothing.
Anyway sorry for going on a bit but thanks for all the posts here at least for me to read and hope things might look a bit brighter in the future (although sadly though I do feel the pain!).
But with many thanks again anyway,
Ps762
Ps762 wrote:Hi (again thanks!),
Firstly I guess just to say many thanks again for the posts and to Gonzalo too cool that you found some additional information that might help and for posting it too. Hopefully it might but if only it always did with Microsoft(!) Also sorry maybe going off topic a bit but if curious maybe just two more small thoughts?
1. Regarding MS not knowing or using real pilots and experiences I guess I can see the point(!) But on the other hand I think for me I believe they do know much of this stuff but maybe it is more the nature of making such a product? I can only think like such glaring issues like moving vehicles come about because everything is done in segments by smaller teams. Then when they put it all together and some things are crazy out there is no time to go back and maybe the subteam that made the vehicles for example might have moved on to something else months ago so you are stuck with it? And again with the long-term stability maybe again it's just having the time to really beta-test and with long-flight simmers too. Maybe there just isn't the time for the team to do tons of that so in a way we the end-users become kind of beta testers sometimes without wanting to be. Well that's how it used to feel like anyway but still for me for many years I could still just about love it(!)
2. And another thought sorry again going off topic and also not wanting to start an Apple/Microsoft war but regarding my experiences with Macs and stuff more over the last few years. I'm no Mac expert and to be honest have made loads of great use of their stuff too more recently. But they of course work well however on the rare occasion that one's Mac becomes corrupted I really wouldn't wish that on anyone! I thought Windows problems were bad until a very rare occasion or two when my Osx went offline (probably I must admit due to my own fiddling!). But it wasn't pretty and to me made Microsoft problems look like minor quirks(!)
Anyway sorry for going off topic and not to make light of issues in MSfs which are serious and stuff but just kinda wanted to share that (sorry!).
Anyway with many thanks again,
Ps762
Ps762 wrote:
as for the ATC it has kind of got me thinking back to how I used to do IFR flights back in Fs2004/Fsx. The transition to approach thing I think never worked but somehow with no Ai traffic I think or little I would still fly the SID's and STAR's and somehow be able to not lose final contact? It was a bit weird though like I was flying all this stuff but ATC really didn't care. I felt a little foolish but didn't mind as long as when I got near my destination or my initial route fix they talked to me again(!)
Ps762
btfarrwm wrote:
Doing live ATC with VATSIM or PilotEdge is really the only way to go for ATC. It's simple to sign up for and download. VATSIM is free, but PilotEdge is a subscription. They are real-time with real people acting as controllers. When I'm logged on with VATSIM or PilotEdge, I ignore the built-in ATC interface entirely and just talk to ATC like I would in a real plane.