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New Pmdg Projects

Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:43 pm

I find this exciting!

http://forums1.avsim...opic=272958&hl=

A 747-8i and -8F model that will use the same flight characteristics as the -400 (for the time being) released before the end of the month, the NGX 737, the Dash-8 and what I've been waiting for for a very very long time, a PMDG 777!!!

Unfortunately it looks like they are steering away from FS9 so I'm going to have to "get with the times" and make the switch to FSX.
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:22 pm



Quoting YWGfarmer (Thread starter):
the NGX 737, the Dash-8 and what I've been waiting for for a very very long time

Has there been any announcement of the NGX 737 release? I have also been waiting for this to drop it into my FSX program!
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:04 pm



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
Has there been any announcement of the NGX 737 release?

Expected mid 2010. Subject to delays.
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:14 pm

2010 is going to be a hell of a year for our hobby...

B737, B757, B777 and a Dash-8 on top of that at the very best. I'd personally be satisfied with only one of them.

By the way. The link does not work. Try this.
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:13 am

Seems like the Dash-8 will be like the J-41 too bad I love the D-8 but I am not a fan of no 2D Panel. Cant wait for the 737 and 777 though! Anyone know what type of 737ng are going to be included in base pack? Please say the 738!
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:50 am



Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 3):
2010 is going to be a hell of a year for our hobby...

And the fastest airliner of all is also coming to FSX in an all new version. It'll be worth the wait.

Can hardly wait for a PMDG B777-300/ER. That would be awesome, as would a B777-200/LR and B777-200ER (Rolls Royce).
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:33 am



Quoting Cpd (Reply 5):
And the fastest airliner of all is also coming to FSX in an all new version.

Are we having a new Tu-144 made? Or are you referring to a current fastest airliner? I am being confused  Smile
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:02 pm

You know exactly what plane I mean. It holds the airliner transatlantic speed records.  Smile
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:35 pm

I've been out of the loop: Didn't PMDG announce an A320 a while back? If so, what happened to that?
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:39 am



Quoting Lemmy (Reply 8):
I've been out of the loop: Didn't PMDG announce an A320 a while back? If so, what happened to that?

Yeah I remember that also. Strange huh? AirlinerXP's Airbus project seems to have gone that way a while back also.

Am waiting to see what people think of the AirSimmer A320 when they release the advanced package.
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:31 pm



Quoting A330Fan (Reply 9):
Am waiting to see what people think of the AirSimmer A320 when they release the advanced package.

Aerosoft is developing its Airbus project called Aerosoft Airbus X. It should be released soon.

Preview shots
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index....27250&st=740&p=200340&#entry200340

After PMDG NGX will not be available for FS9 (AFAIK) I'm looking forward to switch into FSX!!!
Any information related FS9 compatibility for the next PMDG projects?

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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:26 pm



Quoting Cpd (Reply 7):
You know exactly what plane I mean. It holds the airliner transatlantic speed records.

SR-71?  Smile
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:15 pm



Quoting Csturdiv (Reply 11):
SR-71? Smile

You didn't read my message well enough. Big grin I deliberately worded it because I knew that someone would say SR-71, and that someone else would say TU-144 - so I deliberately worded my message to exclude them. Big grin

Anyhow, it's Concorde. Good that we have the computer power to run FSX fast now - because otherwise, it would have been very difficult to fly such a fast plane (and have graphics redrawing keep up).

I'm really liking the line-up of quality addons that are coming soon.  Smile
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:55 am

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 4):
Seems like the Dash-8 will be like the J-41 too bad I love the D-8 but I a

The Dash-8 was a play on words. It'll actually be the "747 Dash Eight", ie, the 747-8. The turboprop one will be quite a long time away.

[Edited 2010-01-21 17:57:15 by cpd]
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:21 am

Actually it sounds like it will be the 747-8, apparently before the end of the month, then the 737 NG, then the Bombardier Dash-8 then the 777.

At first notice of this announcement I installed FSX and spent the last few days reading up on it and tweaking it. FSDreamteam KORD, 80% Ultimate Traffic 2 traffic, no settings below "high" and I get about 20 to 25 fps on approach using the 747-400X, which is apparently terribly hard on framerates. (I have them limited to 30 and with the default 744 it just stays at 30) They said the 747-8 has had tweaking done to it to get better FPS, so here's hoping.

My system is nothing to scream about either, Core 2 Quad Q6600, 4GB of PC-6400 (DDR2 800) and a GTS 250 1gb vid card.

I'm just very happy it works. Plus after installing REX2, FSX looks gooooooooooooooood.  Smile
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:32 am



Quoting Cpd (Reply 13):
The Dash-8 was a play on words. It'll actually be the "747 Dash Eight", ie, the 747-8

After all, the very turboprop Dash-8 is such play as well. Dee Haitch Cee dash Eight as in DHC-8  Wink
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:49 am



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 10):

Hey thanks for the link. Looks interesting, definitely gonna keep an eye on it.
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:41 pm

Soon there will be too many add-ons from PMDG in a sense that I won't be able to decide which one I want to fly  
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:19 pm

Quoting Fabo (Reply 2):
Expected mid 2010. Subject to delays.

Funny, how it went out in august 2011  
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:40 am

http://support.precisionmanuals.com/...a54/pmdg-development-schedule.aspx

Hmmm.... I wonder what the 2 unannounced projects are????

Can't wait for the 777 now the 737NGX is up and running, i'm guessing that they will at least do the 777-300ER as that is the "Newest" bird of the family, as they did with the 737 and 747 series!

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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:35 pm

Quoting steffenbn (Reply 19):
Hmmm.... I wonder what the 2 unannounced projects are????

I seem to recall back in 2005 or 2006, I'm sure I heard something about PMDG doing an A320 with people speculating that the A330 (or A340) would follow. I think I went to follow that up about a year or two later and the information had vanished.

It could also be a case of me getting my wires crossed as 2005 was a long time ago for me now, but I have to say, I have been wanting for as long as I can remember, a PMDG Quality (or even something that came close) Airbus package.
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:47 pm

Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 20):
It could also be a case of me getting my wires crossed as 2005 was a long time ago for me now, but I have to say, I have been wanting for as long as I can remember, a PMDG Quality (or even something that came close) Airbus package

Not 100% sure of the publishers name but I think it is simslab is doing a good A320. A good quality Airbus would be nice but I would rather see A) a 787. B) A classic by PMDG which they say they are not going to do since they dont sell well but man would I love a classic 742 or 727 or DC-10 from PMDG. C) Something like FSPAX, I think that would be #1 on my list. FSPassengers has really gone down with little to no support. It is a great idea and just imagine what the folks at PMDG could do with that.

Quoting steffenbn (Reply 19):
Can't wait for the 777 now the 737NGX is up and running, i'm guessing that they will at least do the 777-300ER as that is the "Newest" bird of the family, as they did with the 737 and 747 series!

Since all the 777s are new I would imagine they will do just about them all, maybe not the 777-200 but. 300ER, 200F, 200LR, 200ER maybe even the plain 200 and 300 models. Looks like they will do just about all the NG's variants even including the rare 700ER
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:42 pm

Quoting flymia (Reply 21):
I think it is simslab is doing a good A320.

If you are thinking FlightSimLabs, they are actually the PMDG people who left PMDG to pursue (among others) A320 as a different entity. Now I am not sure how much this is true, or if there exists a shared knowledge base between FSLabs and PMDG, but I will not put my money on anyone, not even PMDG, to make a really worthy A320 rendition, especially after AirSimmer fiasco.
Which is a shame, really, since A320 Family is the only one in the short-medium range jet family without a decent rendition. 737NG is of course the best covered with PMDG NGX and iFly currently dividing business, MD80 by Leonardo is more than good, and the Russian workhorse Tu-154 by Project Tupolev is often called the best freeware of all time (AND certified by OKB Tupolev - so you are in fact simming, not playing games)

But it seems that Airbus systems are hard, if not impossible to model properly, add to that rather dismissive attitude to simming by Airbus Industrie, and I am not really surprised by the fact.
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:43 am

Quoting Fabo (Reply 22):
But it seems that Airbus systems are hard, if not impossible to model properly,

Indeed. With so many computers on board and so many things which work side by side and being checked and observed by the computers it is a very hard job. Even in real life the pilots don't always know what's going on or where did the famous Airbus quite came from: "What is he doing now? He never did that before!" 

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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:23 am

Quoting flymia (Reply 21):
Looks like they will do just about all the NG's variants even including the rare 700ER

What i ment with "Newest" is that the did the 747-400 first, in the NGX they did the 738/739 - first and so on, so i surely hope that the first PMDG 777 is the 300ER version!

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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:05 pm

wilco737: Next step: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that.

  You ever flown Airbus?
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:34 am

Quoting flymia (Reply 21):
Not 100% sure of the publishers name but I think it is simslab is doing a good A320. A good quality Airbus would be nice

Admittedly, I lost most of my interest in FlightSim a few years ago due to the lack of decent Airbus addons. My style of FlightSim flying tends to be more Commercial Real-World Route Imitation.

For (rough) example: Qantas QF5 SYD-SIN-FRA - Boeing 747-400.
DEP SYD 1715
ARR SIN 0630

This means (Given I'm in the same timezone as Sydney) I'll be on the computer at 1530, Creating FlightPlans in FSBuild, Generating a load I suspect the flight might be taking (Usually 75% to 90% PAX/Cargo capacity) - Getting everything in order so that once my clock hits 1715, I shut the doors, Push back, start up and taxi to runway with real weather and what not, Take off, get into the Air.

The following day, I may do something like a Cathay Pacific flight to Hong Kong, or Continue the flight onto Frankfurt, Departing at Real time again.

Not having an Airbus package really restricts what flights I can do because I almost never 'substitute' with another Aircraft that isn't timetabled/scheduled on that route.

Back in my earlier days, I was actually quite fond of the PSS Airbus, despite it not being fantastic, I learned to make-do, but this was back before the days of the PMDG 747 or LevelD 767.
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:37 am

Quoting Fabo (Reply 25):
You ever flown Airbus?

only in the sim... and I stalled it intentionally 

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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:16 am

Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 26):
Admittedly, I lost most of my interest in FlightSim a few years ago due to the lack of decent Airbus addons. My style of FlightSim flying tends to be more Commercial Real-World Route Imitation.

While I LOVE the PMDG products (Boeing & MD) I wish that PMDG would produce Airbus software for FS – I would not mind if that was the A320 family or the A330 family.

From what I understand a major problem with companies trying to develop Airbus products is that Airbus (EADS) does not assist in surrendering data/information to anyone in the FS community – unlike Boeing whom positively assist PMDG in their development of the Boeing 737 NGX etc.

If someone could produce an Airbus produce for FS which was to the high standards of PMDG I would buy it in seconds!!!!

We can only dream

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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:41 pm

Quoting FriendlySkiesUK (Reply 28):
We can only dream

Certainly looks that way.
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:58 am

With the delays AirSimmer have had, I'm sure they'd have mentioned problems getting the information when responsing to the complaints from impatient customers. Instead they cite difficulties in getting that information to work with FS as being the hold-up. I don't know how difficult it is to get information from Airbus but the commercial developers seem to receive it faster than they can implement it in FS.

The main problem with implementing a FBW Airbus seems to be that it behaves so differently from what FS was designed to expect. As a result, much more of it has to be done outside the FS framework.
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:30 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 27):
only in the sim... and I stalled it intentionally

Must have been a crappy sim then.. not possible in the real aircraft in normal law  

I prefer the Airbus as a pilot.. cockpit is much nicer and modern, and more oriented towards a high level of comfort for the pilots. It is much appreciated when you work a lot.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 23):
Even in real life the pilots don't always know what's going on or where did the famous Airbus quite came from: "What is he doing now? He never did that before!"

That's an old myth amongst Boeing pilots. Either that or the pilots got their license in a toy store. The matter of fact is that both the 777 and 787 use FBW technology as well, so Boeing is soon no different. So get used to the computers  Wink

[Edited 2011-11-06 01:36:11]
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:41 pm

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 31):
Must have been a crappy sim then.. not possible in the real aircraft in normal law  

No, was the LH sim. So no crap. If you know how, then you can stall it.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 31):
That's an old myth amongst Boeing pilots.

Many MANY Airbus pilots tell me this thing. Basically everybody.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 31):
The matter of fact is that both the 777 and 787 use FBW technology as well, so Boeing is soon no different. So get used to the computers  

Good that I am "stuck" on the 744 for several years. So I can enjoy the real flying 

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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:20 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 32):
If you know how, then you can stall it.

And if you don't know, you can book a course from Air France - sorry.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 32):
Good that I am "stuck" on the 744 for several years. So I can enjoy the real flying

Is the 748 fly by wire or still more conventional, out of interest?
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:51 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 32):
No, was the LH sim. So no crap. If you know how, then you can stall it.

What did you do to stall it then? As far as I am aware of, it is only possible to get the stall warning. Big difference.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 32):
Many MANY Airbus pilots tell me this thing. Basically everybody.

Funny, I've not heard it from a single Airbus pilot. Only from friends flying the Boeings. Must be selective hearing :P

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 32):
Good that I am "stuck" on the 744 for several years. So I can enjoy the real flying

With autopilot on? And with the hydraulic systems helping you to control the aircraft? There's not much 'real' flying over it no matter which commercial aircraft you are flying these days.

Also, I wonder why fighter jets use FBW technology and sidesticks if there wasn't any advantage using this.

[Edited 2011-11-08 03:02:10]
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:19 pm

Just to clarify. I love both Airbus and Boeing and would also love to fly a Boeing some day. But I am convinced that the Airbus cockpit is the best. However I love the 747. It is the best looking civil aircraft in my opinion. But it is never a good idea to be so biased towards a certain manufacturer.
 
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:39 pm

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 34):
What did you do to stall it then? As far as I am aware of, it is only possible to get the stall warning. Big difference.

Well AF has done it twice so.....      
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RE: New Pmdg Projects

Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:10 pm

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 34):
What did you do to stall it then? As far as I am aware of, it is only possible to get the stall warning. Big difference.

Can't remember exactly what we did, but we ended up in a stall and as we were at 100' we crashed :S

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 34):
Funny, I've not heard it from a single Airbus pilot. Only from friends flying the Boeings. Must be selective hearing :P

Don't know. Heard it many many times.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 34):
With autopilot on? And with the hydraulic systems helping you to control the aircraft? There's not much 'real' flying over it no matter which commercial aircraft you are flying these days.

Geeez....    Amen to that

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