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iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:10 pm
by Kaphias
Will photos from the new iPhone XS be acceptable here, considering the use of computational photography to create effects such as Smart HDR and the Depth Slider?

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:36 am
by Kaphias
Still looking for an answer on this... thanks.

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:12 am
by Runway28L
I'm very curious about this too. Not that I would start taking pics with it and upload them to here...

I just did a report about the new smartphone cameras vs DSLRs and it seems like a lot of photographers say that DSLRs are still superior in terms of quality and customizing settings to specific conditions despite the manufacturers vastly improving the cameras built into phones.

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:19 am
by TS-IOR
AFAIK equipment has never been restricted to fancy DSLRs here, you can find many smartphone photos on the database. It's all about the edit which should give a satisfactory rendering.

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:53 am
by airkas1
Kaphias wrote:
Still looking for an answer on this... thanks.

I'm not familair with the photos it takes or what the result is when taking such photos. Show me an 'A.net ready' edit and I'll be happy to give you my thoughts.

TS-IOR wrote:
AFAIK equipment has never been restricted to fancy DSLRs here, you can find many smartphone photos on the database. It's all about the edit which should give a satisfactory rendering.

:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark:

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:18 pm
by cpd
airkas1 wrote:
Kaphias wrote:
Still looking for an answer on this... thanks.

I'm not familair with the photos it takes or what the result is when taking such photos. Show me an 'A.net ready' edit and I'll be happy to give you my thoughts.

TS-IOR wrote:
AFAIK equipment has never been restricted to fancy DSLRs here, you can find many smartphone photos on the database. It's all about the edit which should give a satisfactory rendering.

:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark:


I'll give it a go, provided someone funds the acquisition of that phone! :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign:

That thing is very expensive!

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:09 am
by Kaphias
airkas1 wrote:
Kaphias wrote:
Still looking for an answer on this... thanks.

I'm not familair with the photos it takes or what the result is when taking such photos. Show me an 'A.net ready' edit and I'll be happy to give you my thoughts.

I don't own one... still on my iPhone 6, will probably upgrade next gen.

airkas1 wrote:
TS-IOR wrote:
AFAIK equipment has never been restricted to fancy DSLRs here, you can find many smartphone photos on the database. It's all about the edit which should give a satisfactory rendering.

:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark:

It's not all about the result, though - if it was, stacks (HDR, light trails, etc.) would be allowed. I asked about the iPhone XS because it relies heavily on computational photography, that is, combining multiple exposures (even from multiple cameras with different focal lengths on the same phone!) to produce a final image. Does the fact that it does this automatically (as opposed to manually in Photoshop) make photos from it acceptable here?

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:24 pm
by HarryLi
I used my old Iphone 5s few years ago. In 2016 Zhuhai Airshow, i used it to to take a static ground plane and uploaded with the edited version which looks not bad actually. But i found that if U wanna use a phone to take photos which will be uploaded here later, It would be better to avoid using Zoom Up function which will hurt the quality dramatically (For most of phones). However, i still prefer DSLRs Images and quality ;)


If the image was processed by the phone automatically to HDR version which is not allowed in A.net i think.

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:32 am
by Kaphias
Would still appreciate some direction on this subject (even if it's, "we haven't discussed this yet").

The future of photography is code. With the latest release of smartphones, that future is here, now.

Thanks again.

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:49 am
by airkas1
We haven't discussed this yet.


:biggrin:



But I've sent a link to this thread to the HS and I'll report back once I know more.

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:52 am
by Kaphias
airkas1 wrote:
We haven't discussed this yet.


:biggrin:

But I've sent a link to this thread to the HS and I'll report back once I know more.

Appreciate all you do, sir. Sorry for pestering. :veryhappy:

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:45 pm
by airkas1
Does "it's fine if the end result looks natural" help?
With natural being a common sense natural look.

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:05 am
by Kaphias
airkas1 wrote:
Does "it's fine if the end result looks natural" help?
With natural being a common sense natural look.

Of course, and I wouldn't expect (or ask for) anything less. But as I said previously (quoted below), the methods used to produce these images from the iPhone XS (combining multiple exposures) are not allowed here.
If we say that it is the result that matters, not the method, then will other forms of multiple-exposure photos be allowed, such as out-of-camera HDR, panoramas, and/or light trail stacks?

Kaphias wrote:
airkas1 wrote:
TS-IOR wrote:
AFAIK equipment has never been restricted to fancy DSLRs here, you can find many smartphone photos on the database. It's all about the edit which should give a satisfactory rendering.

:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark:

It's not all about the result, though - if it was, stacks (HDR, light trails, etc.) would be allowed. I asked about the iPhone XS because it relies heavily on computational photography, that is, combining multiple exposures (even from multiple cameras with different focal lengths on the same phone!) to produce a final image. Does the fact that it does this automatically (as opposed to manually in Photoshop) make photos from it acceptable here?

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:27 pm
by vikkyvik
airkas1 wrote:
Does "it's fine if the end result looks natural" help?
With natural being a common sense natural look.


Will that same criteria apply to DSLR and other camera composites?

I do HDRs occasionally, and stacks for light trails, and they generally look pretty natural. I don't upload them on principle, but if we're going to accept them from phones...

Thanks.

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:06 pm
by airkas1
It's currently being discussed, will get back once I have more info :)

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:04 pm
by Kaphias
airkas1 wrote:
It's currently being discussed, will get back once I have more info :)

Still under discussion? Might need an answer soon...

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:35 pm
by airkas1
I had to look up the E-mail thread and it still comes down to 'the end result has to look natural'. So I interpret that as HDR photos may be acceptable, but we will not open the gates for stacks/panoramas.

Re: iPhone XS - Smart HDR, Depth Slider

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:46 am
by Kaphias
airkas1 wrote:
I had to look up the E-mail thread and it still comes down to 'the end result has to look natural'. So I interpret that as HDR photos may be acceptable, but we will not open the gates for stacks/panoramas.

Thanks. Disappointing. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I'll ask again down the line and hope that the HS come around eventually.